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[–] 9tr6gyp3@lemmy.world 83 points 2 days ago (7 children)

Who the hell keeps buying nvidia? Stop it.

[–] zqwzzle@lemmy.ca 68 points 2 days ago (3 children)

It’s the fucking AI tech bros

[–] Tinidril@midwest.social 38 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Don't forget the crypto scammers.

[–] 9488fcea02a9@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 days ago (4 children)

GPU hasnt been profitable to mine for many years now.

People just keep parroting anti-crypto talking points for years without actually knowing what'a going on

To be clear, 99% of the crypto space is a scam. But to blame them for GPU shortages and high prices is just misinformation

[–] D06M4@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 days ago

Most people are buying Nvidia because that's what's commonly recommended on reviews. "Want to use AI? Buy Nvidia! Want the latest DX12+ support? Buy Nvidia! Want to develop videogames or encode video? Buy Nvidia! Want to upgrade to Windows 11? Buy Nvidia!" Nonstop Nvidia adverts everywhere, with tampered benchmarks and whatnot. Other brands' selling points aren't well known and the general notion is that if it's not Nvidia it sucks.

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[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (9 children)

Not as many as you’d think. The 5000 series is not great for AI because they have like no VRAM, with respect to their price.

4x3090 or 3060 homelabs are the standard, heh.

[–] zqwzzle@lemmy.ca 22 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Their data centre division is pulling in 41 billion revenue vs 4 billion consumer market.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/nvidia-q2-profit-soars-59-021402431.html

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeah. What does that have to do with home setups? No one is putting an H200 or L40 in their homelab.

[–] zqwzzle@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Does the original title mention home setups?

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

It mentions desktop GPUs, which are not part of this market cap survey.

Basically I don't see what the server market has to do with desktop dGPU market share. Why did you bring that up?

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[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago

Microsoft.

Microsoft is buying them for AI.

From what I understand, chatGPT is running on azure servers.

[–] tidderuuf@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago

The same people buying Intel and Microsoft.

[–] fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Nvidia is the only real option for AI work. Before Trump lifted the really restrictive ban on GPUs to china they had to smuggle in GPUs from the US, and if you're Joe Schmo the only GPUs you can really buy are gaming ones. That's why the 5090 has been selling so well despite it being 2k and not all that much better than the 4090 in gaming.

Also AMD has no high end GPUs, and Intel barely has a mid range GPU.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago (3 children)

To be fair, AMD is trying as hard as they can to not be appealing there. They inexplicably participate in the VRAM cartel when… they have no incentive to.

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

My theory is that they're just scared to annoy Nvidia too much. If they priced their GPUs so as to really increase their market share, Nvidia might retaliate. And Nvidia definitely has the deeper pockets. AMD has no chance to win a price war.

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[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This suggests AMD has comparable GPUs, in some cases better, some cases worse. People seeking diminishing return gains will never be happy. https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/nvidia-vs-amd/

[–] fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That article is a year old and is missing the latest generation of cards. Neither AMD nor Nvidia produce those GPUs anymore. AMDs best GPU from their 9000 series competes with Nvidias 5070/5070ti. The 5090 and 5080 are unmatched.

[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Kind of my point, these were high end and still usable by 95% of people. Everyone is chasing 1% gains for twice the price. I have an new RTX via work equipment for rendering, I play games on the side but that RTX dosnt really make the gameplay that much better. It looks great with the shine on metal, or water reflections, but when totally immersed in game play that stuff is wasted

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Honestly stuff like Unreal's Lumen or Crytek's SVOGI has obsoleted RTX. It looks freaking incredible, and runs fast, and you can put the rendering budget to literally anything else; who in their right mind would develop RTX over that?

[–] lemonySplit@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Meanwhile framework's new AMD offering has nvidia slop in it. Just why. We want AMD. Give us AMD.

[–] notthebees@reddthat.com 4 points 2 days ago

They did. There's just no new amd mobile gpus. Like I think they only have 100 watt tdp or Max cooling to work with and the 7700S is the fastest amd mobile gpu currently.

If amd makes a new mobile gpu, framework will probably make it into a module.

[–] warm@kbin.earth 5 points 2 days ago

They need dlss otherwise the triple a games they love so much wont reach 30fps!!

[–] brb@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] Marthirial@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

At the end of the day I think it is this simple. CUDA works and developers use it so users get a tangible benefit.

AMD comes up with a better version of CUDA and you have the disruption needed to compete.

I'm not sure that would even help that much, since tools out there already support CUDA, and even if AMD had a better version it would still require everyone to update apps to support it.

[–] GaMEChld@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

The vast majority of consumers do not watch or read reviews. They walk into a Best Buy or whatever retailer and grab the box that says GeForce that has the biggest number within their budget. LTT even did a breakdown at some point that showed how even their most watched reviews have little to no impact on sales numbers. Nvidia has the mind share. In a lot of people's minds GeForce = Graphics. And I say all that as someone who is currently on a Radeon 7900XTX. I'd be sad to see AMD and Intel quit the dGPU space, but I wouldn't be surprised.

[–] Brotha_Jaufrey@lemmy.world 57 points 2 days ago (5 children)

IMO there’s zero reason to buy an nvidia gpu if there’s a similarly performing amd card because the price will just be better.

[–] Garry@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Amd promised a msrp of 600 for the 9070xt, it rarely goes below 750. All amd had to do was stick to their prices and have ample stock. Amd is satisfied with second place

[–] sheogorath@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It fells between 5070 Ti and 5080 while still being cheaper than 5070 Ti.

[–] Garry@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

5070 ti has come down to its normal price. You can find listings for $750. 9070 xt is better in some games than the 5070 ti in terms of raw raster. When it comes to upscaling, efficiency,and ray tracing. The 5070 ti is better.

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[–] thisNotMyName@lemmy.world 23 points 2 days ago

Intel cards are awesome in a homeserver for media transcoding. Super cheap, super capable, power saving compared to other cards with the features. And although Intel has become a shitty company, I'd really like to see more competition on the gpu market

[–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

TIL there's a lot of people who don't know what a dGPU is in here

[–] FlembleFabber@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 day ago

Thanks for explaining

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

I don’t get this.

Well, if this includes laptops, I get that. Just try to find a dGPU laptop with AMD or Arc these days.


…But in desktops, everyone seems to complain about Nvidia pricing, yet no one is touching Battlemage or the 9000 series? Why? For gaming specifically, they seem pretty great in their price brackets.

Maybe prebuilts are overshadowing that too?

[–] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 2 days ago (2 children)

But in desktops, everyone seems to complain about Nvidia pricing, yet no one is touching Battlemage or the 9000 series? Why?

Its always been this way: they want AMD and Intel to compete so Nvidia gets cheaper, not that they will ever buy AMD or Intel. Gamers seem to be the laziest, most easily influenced consumer sector ever.

[–] notthebees@reddthat.com 3 points 2 days ago

People who say buy Intel and amd probably either did or will when they upgrade, which is probably not anytime soon with the way everything seems to be going.

[–] Alchalide@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That one stung XD. I went with an AMD GPU in 2023 after only owning Nvidia for decades. I went with AMD because I was not satisfied with the amount of Vram Nvidia offers and I did not want burning power connectors. Overall it's stable and works great. There are some bugs here and there, but zero regrets.

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[–] ramble81@lemmy.zip 7 points 2 days ago

I’m doing my part. I picked up an Arc B580.

[–] pycorax@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

We've come to a point where PC gaming is so mainstream that the average PC gamer likely doesn't even know that AMD makes GPUs. They'll just complain about the prices and then pay for Nvidia directly or indirectly via prebuilts.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I buy this.

And I can’t really blame people for not diving into components and wanting stuff to just… Work.

No one (on average) knows their graphics card off the top of their head.

[–] Omega_Jimes@lemmy.ca 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I know it's not indicative of the industry as a whole, but the Steam hardware survey has Nvidia at 75%. So while they're still selling strong, as others have indicated, I'm not confident they're getting used for gaming.

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[–] ABetterTomorrow@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

GTX 1080 Ti strong here lol

[–] overload@sopuli.xyz 2 points 17 hours ago

💪💎💪

[–] Grant_M@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Rocking an R9 280 atm 👍

[–] TwiddleTwaddle@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I only upgraded from my 380 this year

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AMD needs to fix their software.

I had an AMD GPU last year for a couple weeks, but their software barely works. The overlay didn't scale properly on a 4k screen and cut off half the info, and wouldn't even show up at all most of the time, 'ReLive' with instant replay enabled caused a performance hit with stuttering in high FPS games...

Maybe they have it now, but I also couldn't find a way to enable HDR on older games like Nvidia has.

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