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Finally I have a valid reason to learn about memory management. It was also hella weird when encountering it.

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[–] boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net 44 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Unused memory is wasted memory

[–] mmmac@lemmy.zip 23 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Cloud providers LOVE you with this one quick trick!

[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 3 points 2 months ago

Also goes for mobile. You use more memory and apps get killed.

[–] sus@programming.dev 7 points 2 months ago

and with a good enough leak, the amount of unused memory will become negative!

[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 26 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children)

Not freeing your memory at all is a memory management strategy. I think some LaTeX compilers use it as well as surprisingly many Java applications.

[–] wewbull@feddit.uk 8 points 2 months ago

.net

Anything I run in C# or similar seems to allocate 512GB of virtual address space and then just populates what it actually uses.

[–] cows_are_underrated@feddit.org 6 points 2 months ago (10 children)

That's the funny thing. I had a (yet) very basic Programm and did not care at all about memory management. When I did some testing I realised, that for some reason when I printed string 1 I also got characters from string 2.

[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 10 points 2 months ago

That sounds like it could be memory corruption. That should not happen because every string should be separated by a null terminator.

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[–] csm10495@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Upvoted. This is something I learned rather recently. Sometimes it's more performant to slowly leak than it would be to free properly. Then take x amount of time to restart every n amount of time.

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[–] entwine@programming.dev 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

This non-sarcastically. The operating system is better at cleaning up memory than you, and it's completely pointless to free all your allocations if you're about to exit the program. For certain workloads, it can lead to cleaner, less buggy code to not free anything.

It's important to know the difference between a "memory leak" and unfreed memory. A leak refers to memory that cannot be freed because you lost track of the address to it. Leaks are only really a problem if the amount of leaked memory is unbounded or huge. Every scenario is different.

Of course, that's not an excuse to be sloppy with memory management. You should only ever fail to free memory intentionally.

[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Absolutely. I once wrote a server for a factory machine that spawned child processes to work each job item. Intentionally we did not free any memory in the child process because it serves only one request and then exits anyway. It’s much more efficient to have the OS just clean up everything and provides strong guarantees that nothing can be left behind accidentally for a system where up time was money. Any code to manage memory was pointless line noise and extra developer effort.

In fact I think in the linker we specifically replaced free with a function that does nothing.

[–] ulterno@programming.dev 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Back when I was a kid and was learning C, I used to wonder why people considered pointers hard.
My usage of pointers was like:

void func (int * arg1)
{
    // do sth with arg1
}
int main ()
{
    int x;
    func (&x);
    return 0;
}

I didn't know stuff like malloc and never felt the need in any of the program logic for the little thingies I made.
Pointers are not hard. Memory management makes it hard.

[–] chunes@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

C makes them unnecessarily confusing in my opinion. In Forth they're as simple as can be compared to C.

[–] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 12 points 2 months ago

You haven't lived until you've produced a memory leak in JavaScript.

[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Congratulations! Now you can get a job at Fortinet.

(Fortinet is a network security vendor...think firewalls, HLBs, etc. They get an ungodly amount of memory leak bugs, or at least far more than you would expect from an enterprise firewall)

[–] diemartin@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago

Get a job playing Fortnite, got it

(Insert image of Kronk here)

[–] favoredponcho@lemmy.zip 9 points 2 months ago

Valgrind to the rescue

[–] resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

RAII.

Can’t leak what never leaves the stack frame.

[–] CookieOfFortune@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Classes are just pretentious structs.

[–] CookieOfFortune@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (3 children)

How do you get destructor behavior in C?

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[–] _cryptagion@anarchist.nexus 6 points 2 months ago (2 children)

is this some genX meme that I'm too millennial to understand?

[–] cows_are_underrated@feddit.org 17 points 2 months ago (1 children)

No. I am just learning C and was curious how long it would take to get my first memory leak.

[–] PlutoParty@programming.dev 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I think the confusion comes from this not exactly being a positive thing. It reads almost like a new driver saying, "Thank God I finally got my first speeding ticket!"

[–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I did my first "that one thing where you park and want to press breaks but press gas instead by accident."

Gen-x likes to call it "right of passage."

[–] alsaaas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Learn some C you whippersnapper! You ain't gonna become a proper programmer unless you understand your basic low level concepts well!

The youth nowadays, always hiding behind abstractions of abstractions that 90% of the time are just C wrappers anyway /j

(written by an early 20s PHP dev LOL. Although I do plan on learning C quite a bit before I move to C++ and ultimately Rust)

[–] Crashumbc@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

You're not a "real" programmer unless you started with FORTRAN :p

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[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] cows_are_underrated@feddit.org 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I did not knew this existed, so thanks for the tip.

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[–] diemartin@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 months ago

It'll be fun when you get to funny errors because you used freed memory.

When I was learning about linked lists and decided to use them in a project, I "removed" items by making the previous item's next point to this item's next, except I misplaced a call to free before using the fields, and it somehow still worked most of the time on debug builds, but on optimized builds it would cause a segmentation fault 100% of the time.

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