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[–] wedge@lemmy.one 33 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Surprisingly unsurprised that the CIA can't and wouldn't bother making their own in-house secure communications platform given they allowed a literal Russian asset to become President.

[–] teolan@lemmy.world 24 points 6 days ago (2 children)

They do. They don't use it because these tools actually have archiving and transparency tools to allow investigating federal agency. All such discussions must be archived for that reason. They use Signal for the disappearing messages.

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 13 points 6 days ago (1 children)

So they're criminals? I'm shocked! SHOCKED!

[–] easily3667@lemmus.org 3 points 6 days ago

Every person in America is a criminal. I would assume this is true in many countries, but american governments at all levels love rules.

[–] wedge@lemmy.one 1 points 6 days ago

On the surface this sounds right, until you realize that they announced that signal is on their devices by default indicating it's within policy. So they're clearly not using it for some compliance workaround otherwise they wouldn't be announcing it.

[–] mustbe3to20signs@feddit.org 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Well, developing and maintaining an in-house solution costs money, freeriding Signal's service is in fact free...

[–] juli@lemmy.world 10 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The more an authorian governments pushes a software, the less I trust it.

[–] teolan@lemmy.world 25 points 6 days ago (1 children)

They never pushed it for anyone but themselves though. And they're using it themselves to work around archiving and transparency regulations.

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago

Yeah the fact they're personally using it to commit their crimes means they likely haven't cracked it. If they knew it were compromised they'd use something else.

[–] MuskyMelon@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Signal is so secure that the CIA uses it...thus some journo couldn't have hacked their way in. It was pure incompetence by Walz and Hegseth.

[–] pleasegoaway@lemm.ee 4 points 6 days ago

Sure, it’s secure-ish.

But these types of conversations aren’t supposed to happen via texts that will disappear in 7 days.

Presidential records are supposed to be recorded. Journalists are unable to make FOIA requests if no records are kept. Even if a FOIA request would be denied now, the records should still be kept for possible declassification decades from now.

This regime dangerously eschews transparency and has become a dark hole.

It’s like the meme of that guy tapping his forehead: “you can’t request records if there are no records”.

[–] easily3667@lemmus.org 3 points 6 days ago

Who said otherwise? Even trump admitted it and said walz was trying his best and shouldn't be punished.

[–] warbond@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I bet they come with Outlook and Edge pre installed too. Does that make it okay to use those for classified communications?

[–] easily3667@lemmus.org 1 points 6 days ago

Good bet, now prove it

[–] zr0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Outlook? Sure, to some degree, with S/MIME encryption.

[–] warbond@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

Ha, okay, but you're still not allowed to put the secrets on the non-secret computer, regardless of what kind of encryption, because there's a whole different system for that.

[–] beeng@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

What?

The desktop version is the least secure version of Signal.

[–] easily3667@lemmus.org 3 points 6 days ago

If you have access to the machine

[–] HappyTimeHarry@lemm.ee 2 points 6 days ago

So then they must also include it on the phones they issue, since its pretty much useless unless linked to a phone.

[–] hsdkfr734r@feddit.nl 2 points 6 days ago

I mean, signal should be safe to use with its encryption and all. The developers can't do much if the screen is brighter than the user in front of it. Well, it is what it is...