Blatantly unconstitutional. The voting is directly controlled by the state constitutions, not the fed. Even congress would need to amend the constitution to do this, but we'll see how the bench legislators in SCOTUS rule.
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President Trump says lawyers are drafting executive order to end mail-in voting
(www.theguardian.com)
The Constitution no longer matters when all branches of power fail to uphold it and instead collude with the Orange King.
SCOTUS already crossed that line with Trump v. Anderson.
Not really the same, that ruling was for the Fourteenth Amendment disqualification because Trump engaged in insurrection against the United States, that states can't individually determine if someone engaged in insurrection.
Article 1 of the constitution outlines clearly that states manage the time, place and manner of elections:
The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof; but the Congress may at any time by Law make or alter such Regulations, except as to the Places of chusing Senators.
States determine ballot eligibility for their ballots. 14A S3 clearly addresses ballot eligibility in relation to insurrection. When I say that SCOTUS "crossed that line", I meant that in the sense of "they were wrong, I wonder why".
Republicans seems to interpret the constitution like christians interpret the bible
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Congress could probably do it, but it would have to be functional to do so. Which it very much is not.
Among other serious problems, this would disenfranchise all military service members stationed or deployed outside their home state. The Democrats really should be making a big deal out of that.
"Oh but it's not going to effect them at all because you see, they're using absentee ballots which are a totally different and completely secure thing."
Actual talking point I've seen floating around already.
Okay! Then let’s just switch everyone over to those! Can’t wait to hear how that’s impossible for reasons.
Also those of us not in the military but living fulltime outside the US :/
if i were one of those people living abroad i'd probably just renounce my citizenship at this point.
Hahaha no. This will not include them.
You sweet summer child, that means nothing these days. Trump will have his way because no one will do anything about it.
Yep any state that refuses to follow this order will just have its ballots invalidated. Funny it will be mostly in blue states that this happens in.
Next elections are state elections, there's nothing the Feds can invalidate.
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Well I guess that would be war then
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"Remember, the States are merely an 'agent' for the Federal Government in counting and tabulating the votes. They must do what the Federal Government, as represented by the President of the United States, tells them, FOR THE GOOD OF OUR COUNTRY, to do," Trump wrote.
Just gonna leave that right there.
Holy shit he really does think he is a king. This is terrifying.
The constitution explicitly gives this power to the states. Even if it didn’t it would be up to congress.
Holy fuck. He needs to be 25th amendmented and drug out of the White House.
We don't need the 25th Amendment. He is in blatant defiance of the Constitution he swore to protect. It is yet another instance of a thing that anyone else would be impeached over.
Well that's fucking horrifying.
He said "United States" but doesn't recognize what that means. I wonder how much more things can get undermined before people really get pissed enough to sacrifice everything and stop the fall. How do you herd so many felines in the same direction?
No, this is one we should be concerned about. Eliminate mail-in voting, and democrats won't win another election again. The vast majority of people vote by mail.
He can't eliminate mail-in voting by executive order.
And before you say 'he doesn't care about the law he'll do it anyway,' no state that isn't already fallen to the crazy will acknowledge such an order.
This is an obvious distraction. One you are falling for.
he actuy said those words at the last zelensky meeting
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Release the Trump/Epstein files
Gonna have to draft a constitutional amendment dumass
He'll just shut down USPS for the 6 weeks leading up to the next election.
Oregon has been entirely state-wide mail-in voting for decades. Good luck shutting down an entire state’s mail for more than a month.
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"STatE rIGhtS"
No no, this is not a distraction. This is something he is SUPER pissed that he hasn't been able to end. He just didn't think he had the clout for it until now. Not everything is a distraction, and mail-in voting specifically has been a bugaboo for the GOP almost as long as it's been around. Physical polling locations are easier to suppress, and even easier to post armed guards near to "secure" (intimidate) people into voting the correct way.
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Traitor. Destroying America at every turn. And not in a good way.
Executive. Orders. Are. Not. Laws.
They kind of are when the courts are captured.
When are they ending voting altogether?
Probably never.
It will be like in Russia: your vote doesn't matter, but elections still take place as a way for the "Great Leader" to assert his power and dominance over the masses. Elections then become a lie that everyone knows but no one can publicly say, a form of exhibitionism in honor of the King's power to control the narrative, to distort reality.
Unfortunately, the new American elections will become a gruesome feast mocking democracy where every guest already knows the results.
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WTAF. Assuming we even still have voting, I'm going to be so pissed if this dementia-addled diaper-filling piece of shit means voting in Colorado has to be in-person.
Fuck this guy.
Electioneering is a power reserved to the states. So, this order is ignorable.
So are dozens of others, that didn't stop them from being enforced and acted up on.
Unlike the laws that our constitution outlines, which are not enforced or observed.
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How much would it cost realistically for us to go back to paper only, each district or country or however you wanna chop it up is allotted x amount of dollars and y amount of time, and we count this shit one by one on public TV so that if you want to see your own ballot actually be counted and confirmed, you can because they'd be serialized and you could guestimate. People will have backups for calling horseshit, etc. it cannot not be worth it.
I don't give a single fuck about same day results, this is democracy and people's lives for the next decade plus.
I know for a fact it wouldn't cost a single percentage of what this administration alone has cost us.
Overseas voters exist. We still have to file taxes every year, can't invest in a lot of things in retirement plans (look up PFICs), and generally are fucked by the IRS by laws presumably meant to keep the rich from hiding money. There is no way I could pay the thousands of dollars to fly to the states and back to vote in "my state" (in which I haven't lived in 10 years, but the US system is a trainwreck).
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if i had thought there were any actual chance we were going to have legitimate elections in the future i might care a little more.
Can't win without cheating or rigging. Sounds right for the Party of Pedos.
It's an executive order, it doesn't have that power.
Yet states and other agencies will "make it happen" as if it does.
Terrible, idiotic lawyers but lawyers, just the same.
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