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Details of post-summit call were leaked in which US president supports plan for Kyiv to give up Donbas region

Donald Trump will back a plan to cede unoccupied Ukrainian territory to Russia to secure an end to the war between the two countries, it was reported on Saturday, after details of his post-summit call with European leaders leaked out.

Trump told European leaders that he believed a peace deal could be negotiated if the Ukrainian president, Volodymyr Zelenskyy, agreed to give up the Donbas region, which Russian invaders have not been able to seize in over three years of fighting, the New York Times reported, citing to two senior European officials.

Two sources with direct knowledge of the talks in Alaska told the Guardian that Putin demanded Ukraine withdraw from Donbas, which is made up of the Donestk and Luhansk regions, as a condition for ending the war, but offered Trump a freeze along the remaining frontline.

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[–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 80 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Next Putin will claim Alaska used to be Russian, and should be handed back.

[–] Rozz@lemmy.sdf.org 35 points 3 weeks ago

And trump would give it to him after some fake posturing.

[–] rockerface@lemmy.cafe 13 points 3 weeks ago

Actually, Lenin invented the United States in the first place, so their entire country is historically part of Russia /s

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[–] ramble81@lemmy.zip 74 points 3 weeks ago (13 children)

Doesn’t much matter, Zelensky has already said that’s a non-starter and their constitution forbids it anyway.

[–] krakenfury@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

None of these demands are remotely acceptable to European leaders, either. Donbas is the part the headlines focus on, but the security guarantees sought by Russia are more egregious, given they would leave Ukraine totally defenseless.

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[–] hddsx@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Got a translated source? That’d be a really interesting constitution

[–] ramble81@lemmy.zip 22 points 3 weeks ago

In rejecting Mr. Trump’s proposal, Mr. Zelensky invoked Ukraine’s Constitution, which states that the Ukrainian territory is indivisible and inviolable. “The answer to Ukraine’s territorial question is already in the Constitution of Ukraine,” Mr. Zelensky said. “No one will step back from this, nor will anyone be able to.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/09/world/europe/zelensky-trump-ukraine-russia.html

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[–] Lodespawn@aussie.zone 38 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

I don't seem to remember anyone other than Trump appointing Trump the lead deal negotiator for this, people would be losing their brains of Xi Jinping or Kier Starmer randomly started saying they were negotiating a ceasfire between Russia and Ukraine, Trump starts trying to do and it's all "sure let's give him a crack at it" regardless of the ridiculous outcomes of his meetings with either Putin or Zelinsky.. I've seen toddlers with better negotiating skills than this demented fool

[–] iglou@programming.dev 20 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Let's also not forget that the only reason he is even trying to negotiate and put an end to the war is trying to get the nobel peace prize.

Piece of shit. The US really outdid themselves reelecting that asshole.

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 8 points 3 weeks ago

Trump is willing to sell out Ukraine and carve up its carcass as long as he gets a piece of the action.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 35 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

It’s comically and frustratingly obvious that his “ideas” are simply “whatever the last guy he talked to said”

[–] frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 3 weeks ago

Yup. If you had Trump's ear for a few minutes, he is incredibly easy to manipulate.

[–] tempest@lemmy.ca 7 points 3 weeks ago

That's the dementia. At this point he is increasingly acting senile.

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[–] Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub 31 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

It ain't his tho?

This is like selling someone else's car to a third party.

[–] k0e3@lemmy.ca 17 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah, but he wouldn't be the rapist that he is if he understood no means no.

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[–] Puddinghelmet@lemmy.world 30 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

He who drinks with the enemy while his ally bleeds is no hero but a fool. You grant him honor while he seeks to burn your and your ally’s home. No word of peace holds meaning while his sword is still raised against those who stand with you.

Install troops in Ukraine and show Putin already god damn it. That makes putin mad? Good that will make EU more unified. And its not like putin is gonna drop nuclear bombs cause thats suicide :) So bring him to his knees.

[–] vrighter@discuss.tchncs.de 29 points 3 weeks ago

who the fuck does he think he is to "negotiate" ceding someone else's territory? (I'm not expecting any answers, the oompa loompa simply defies all logic)

[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 29 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

What the hell do you expect when two criminals meet. Fuck Vlad and and his orange sock puppet. The EU and Ukraine already know they will have to contain the Russians without the MAGAt fuckers.

[–] k0e3@lemmy.ca 8 points 3 weeks ago

I like how you call him a sock puppet. It's a perfect analogy since his other use is to be Putin's cum sock.

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 22 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Trump is an imbecile. His grave is going to be a gender neutral bathroom for the rest of human history.

[–] Blumpkinhead@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago

I would use that bathroom.

[–] DozensOfDonner@mander.xyz 19 points 3 weeks ago (16 children)

So I think I missed something? Why is Trump thinking he has a say in this?

[–] ms_lane@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Since if Ukraine don't listen, US will cut off military aid.

Which unfortunately, Ukraine need since no one else can provide the numbers and TACO would likely even block EU and AU from buying US weapons if they were intended for Ukraine.

Meanwhile he's giving away Alaska to Putin.

It was obvious three days ago, but it's painfully obvious now why Trump has initiated quasi martial law in DC.

[–] frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 3 weeks ago

If he actually gave Alaska to Russia, the Republican majority in the Senate would be down to one seat. The House is a little harder to quantify, because Alaska has one seat that would be reaportioned somewhere, but it wouldn't help their thin House majority much, either.

Also, I'm pretty sure Alaska would say fuck you, we're an independent nation now. Russia could do fuck all about it. Their military is already at the breaking point, they don't have a lot of capacity to land equipment across the sea, Alaska has a very well armed population, and the geography is ideal for insurgent tactics.

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[–] frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 3 weeks ago

He's a self important blowhard with delusons of adaquacy. That's really all there is to it.

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[–] GaMEChld@lemmy.world 19 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I back ceding Donald Trump and Mar a Lago to Putin.

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[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 19 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Oh so we negotiate with and reward terrorists now? Because they aren't going to stop here any more than they stopped with Crimea.

[–] Zachariah@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago

“negotiate”

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[–] CircaV@lemmy.ca 18 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Zelenskyy says NO. So does EU

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[–] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 18 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Without any guarantees for peace, like joining NATO, any peace agreement isn't worth the paper it's written on. Putin will demand such things won't happen and Trump will immediately agree.

[–] Mihies@programming.dev 13 points 3 weeks ago

Indeed, Ukraine had an agreement for giving back nuclear weapons...

He was talking so tough before he saw his pimp, now he’s got his tail between his leg and he changed his tune

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 17 points 3 weeks ago

To be fair, appeasement worked quite well in the 1930s...

[–] twinnie@feddit.uk 17 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

This’ll be the second time they’ve taken territory from Ukraine and gotten away with it. They’ll probably take Belarus once that dictator dies, and they’ll eventually take Moldova since they already control part of it. They’ll keep trying to take all of Ukraine until it happens.

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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 16 points 3 weeks ago

Go fuck yourself with an umbrella, cheeto

[–] GraniteM@lemmy.world 13 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Okay, well, the last time I made this joke it came true, so I'm going to throw some salt over my shoulder after I say it, but how about instead of that, we just give Russia about 20,000 square miles of Alaska. We can start with the entirety of the Aleutian Island chain (about 6,800 sq. miles), and then work out some chunk of the mainland for the rest. That seems reasonable.

And if that does come true, then by God I'm going to go out and buy a lottery ticket.

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[–] Sunflier@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago

Every day, guillotines become more attractive.

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The important thing to remember is that Putin said Trump won the 2020 election though. Why is everyone so focused on this "Ukraine" thing?

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[–] switcheroo@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

Ofc he does. Surprised he can even talk while gargling so much Russian balls...

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