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DEBIAN 13: I could actually use it as my desktop, now! (tilvids.com)
submitted 2 months ago by Sunshine@piefed.ca to c/linux@programming.dev
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[โ€“] just_another_person@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago (2 children)

"For now", is more like it.

This happens with every refresh ๐Ÿ˜‚ 6 months from now you'll be fighting to get Mesa updated or something.

[โ€“] ExtremeUnicorn@feddit.org 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Is that not in Backports?

[โ€“] just_another_person@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

If you're asking for problems, I suppose you could do that, but they still aren't updated regularly. Slightly before testing releases hit. That's nowhere near where it needs to be for gaming desktops for most people.

[โ€“] ExtremeUnicorn@feddit.org 2 points 2 months ago

Backports are specifically tested for the purpose of being compatible with stable, so there should be no issues.

I can't really comment on what what gaming desktops need, I feel like you could absolutely play games without the latest drivers at all times, but I don't play any modern AAA games.

If you need bleeding edge software, then don't install Debian, for sure. Or go unstable with all the potential issues.

[โ€“] GenChadT@programming.dev 1 points 2 months ago

Ugh, too true. I'm using 13 now after a long hiatus of Windows only desktops and was shocked to find KDE had undergone yet another refresh.

[โ€“] illusionist@lemmy.zip 13 points 2 months ago (2 children)

With flatpak and distrobox, the underlying system and package manager does not matter too much anymore to the end user.

[โ€“] Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Assuming most end users for Debian even have monitors connected...

[โ€“] maxwells_daemon@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

bs-manager flatpak won't work, the AUR version does. That's more convincing than I'll ever need to go back to Arch.

[โ€“] Shareni@programming.dev 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Some people prefer to have a game mod manager working immediately, others prefer their system working for years instead of failing to boot after an update.

[โ€“] Miaou@jlai.lu 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

And then those who want both use arch. I know we love our memes, but this one is really out of date.

[โ€“] yessikg@fedia.io 8 points 2 months ago (4 children)

I don't get this obsession with always having the latest and greatest. I'm more of a "if it isn't broke don't fix it" kind of person

[โ€“] f4f4f4f4f4f4f4f4@sopuli.xyz 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

It turns out that there isn't one big break, there are many small cracks that have been patched. I was reading about 13% performance increase in benchmarks, which seems significant.

Ah, here it is: https://www.phoronix.com/review/debian-13-benchmarks

[โ€“] thecoffeehobbit@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 months ago

If you have an nvidia card, which is very common and can't always be avoided, there is significant benefit in newer drivers, for one

[โ€“] FizzyOrange@programming.dev 2 points 2 months ago

More like "If it isn't as good as it could be, don't do anything to improve it."

[โ€“] xav@programming.dev 1 points 2 months ago

So I guess you're still using a PSTN modem ?