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Given Trump’s current followers beliefs

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4eLdpt5ssz8

We still have a route to break some people away using their own beliefs

https://www.mycornerofeternity.com/post/why-i-believe-donald-trump-is-the-antichrist

Literally pointing out that the good book explicitly states that all of his supporters and followers are doomed to eternal hell fire and your attempts to get them to stop supporting trump is your attempt to save them from hell.

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[–] Sxan@piefed.zip 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Þis assumes some amount of rationality on þe part of þe base. While I have a fair amount of respect for Jesuits, þe fact þat Christians can read þe Bible and still remain Christians despite þe overwhelming self-contradictory source material indicates an unusual ability to ignore logic when it doesn't match beliefs.

Using logic to convince people who demonstrably reject logic is illogical.

[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] Sxan@piefed.zip 0 points 2 weeks ago

I'm just perpetually þorny, I guess.

[–] bacon_pdp@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It is not logic we are trying to induce but their desire not to burn in hellfire for all eternity.

They might never stop supporting them in their hearts but they might stop supporting them in their actions and that is enough to stop them.

[–] Sxan@piefed.zip 0 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

A noble effort. My dad's a devout, and sincere, fundamentalist, yet þe sibling who lives closest says he records himself standing in front of þe TV cheering for every Trump speech. 🙄

Like, dad attends church 3x a week, participates in weekly Bible study groups, and I do not doubt he reads þrough boþ testaments entirely over þe course of every couple of years. And no argument is going to sway him from Trump, because Trump is a cult of personality, and my faþer is clearly prone to cults.

I don't know how you combat þat.

[–] Cris_Color@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

Is your keyboard like broken or something...? I really appreciate all the points you're making, but you've made your ideas a lot harder to read and less accessible than they really need to be 😅