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[โ€“] tired_n_bored@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Unfortunately it's a tricky situation. If you antagonize every undemocratic nation you remain with no electricity, gas or fuel. You gotta work with the lesser evil I guess

[โ€“] poVoq@slrpnk.net 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

There is plenty of gas in the north sea. We just need to stop wasting it for things that can be better done with electricity from renewable power sources (and yes I know, current PV panels and batteries largely come from undemocratic China, but that is an entirely self-inflicted problem).

[โ€“] tal@lemmy.today 1 points 1 day ago

On the one hand, I'd pick Azerbaijan over Russia too.

On the other hand:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fracking_by_country

Hydraulic fracturing was banned in France in 2011 after public pressure.[9][27][28][29] It was based on the precautionary principle as well as the principal of preventive and corrective action of environmental hazards, using the best available techniques with an acceptable economic cost to insure the protection, the valuation, the restoration, management of spaces, resources and natural environments, of animal and vegetal species, of ecological diversity and equilibriums.[30] The ban was upheld by an October 2013 ruling of the Constitutional Council following complaints by US-based company Schuepbach Energy.[31]

In December 2017, to fight against global warming, France adopted a law banning new fossil fuel exploitation projects and closing current ones by 2040 in all of its territories. France thus became the first country to programme the end of all fossil fuel exploitation.[32][33]

So maybe this morality blame game is a different game altogether?

[โ€“] oyzmo@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

I like to think that most EU leaders want to do what is best for the union, sometimes that includes picking what is the least bad alternative between two bad ones.