Indeed, the fascists in Europe are Russian testicle lickers and receive funding from Moscow. One of the primary missions for Russia and the f'ed up MAGA USA, divide and conquer the European Union. I fully support the EU and we must contain the Russians and MAGA.
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I'd say it's all about funding from Moscow. They are sort of shareholders in Russia's resources, including its population that can be used to staff an army.
And if they play their cards right, they can take a share of the resources of their own countries, which they, looking at both Russia and MAGA and Israel, really want. Nation-states have a lot of resources. And it's visible how one can have those resources maintaining a semblance of legality and with no revolution happening. People are ready to kill for much less, even risk death for a chance at getting much less.
Divide and conquer - I don't think so. "International brotherhood of thieves" is more like it.
"Team red-blue vs team black" (meaning liberal-democrats+commies vs fascists) is past us, "team red vs team blue" (meaning commies vs liberal-democrats) is past us as well. Even "team empire vs team rebel" is secondary. It's really "team thugs vs team suckers" now.
Yep, such positioning is not as epic as people in the interwebs would want it to be! It actually smells of piss. But that's just how it is.
Fascists like fascists.
Especially if they get money/favors from each other.
Trump hardliners want a power shift in the EU with the help of European allies. and this is one example.
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There are increasing indications that the Trump movement is actively interfering with the political future of the European Union. In March, the most influential conservative think tank in Washington, the Heritage Foundation, invited conservative thinkers from Vienna and Budapest to present their plans for the EU during a workshop.
“It is right for the United States to be involved in the future of Europe,” Nile Gardiner of the Heritage Foundation told Nieuwsuur. According to the prominent conservative thinker, Donald Trump is America's first eurosceptic president. “The United States has protected Europe for so long that European governments should respect America’s views.”
Polish and Hungarian think tanks published an ambitious plan in March to fundamentally reform and dismantle the EU from within. A Hungarian investigative journalist uncovered the project, titled The Great Reset. The proposal was quickly adopted by the Heritage Foundation, the intellectual force behind Project 2025, the ideological blueprint for Trump’s agenda.
Power Back to Nation States
The now-public roadmap includes proposals to strip power from the European Commission and the European Court of Justice. It also calls for renaming the EU to the “European Community of Nations.” Power, according to the document, should return to the individual nation states of Europe.
“These proposals essentially amount to the complete dismantling of the European Commission, which would be reduced to handling only trivial matters,” explains Szabolcs Panyi, the journalist who obtained the document.
Nieuwsuur also spoke with one of the Polish authors of the plan, Zbigniew Przybyłowski of the conservative Ordo Iuris Institute: “We are calling for the restoration of democracy, freedom, and the sovereignty of nations. You could call that a power shift.”
“It’s quite unusual for such an article to appear on the U.S. State Department’s website.”
– Lobbying expert Kenneth Haar
U.S. Government Statement on Europe
In May of this year, a policy document appeared on the website of the U.S. State Department. In it, the American government raised alarm about the current state of Europe. The policy piece described Europe as having “degenerated into a hotbed of digital censorship, mass migration, and restrictions on religious freedom.” It criticized efforts to limit election participation, for example by labeling Germany’s Alternative für Deutschland (AfD) as “extremist.”
The document, titled The Need for Civilizational Allies in Europe, called for strengthening ties with far-right and ultraconservative allies in Europe, such as French politician Marine Le Pen, AfD leader Alice Weidel, Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orbán, and Dutch PVV leader Geert Wilders. It is unclear whether the U.S. policy statement was influenced by the Polish-Hungarian Great Reset project.
“There has already been collaboration between the MAGA movement (Trump’s Make America Great Again campaign) and the European far-right,” says Danish lobby researcher Kenneth Haar. “But seeing such a document appear on the U.S. government’s official website is remarkable.”
“The Pro-European Candidate is a Disaster”
Haar points to the Conservative Political Action Conferences (CPAC) from the U.S., which have been held in Europe for the past three years. “These are very large conferences with hundreds of participants and prominent speakers, involving all major far-right parties in Europe.”
This also occurred recently during a tight race between two Polish presidential candidates. At a special CPAC conference in Poland, Trump’s former Homeland Security Secretary publicly called for a vote in favor of the eurosceptic candidate Karol Nawrocki. She labeled his pro-European opponent “a disaster.” Members of the Trump camp also expressed explicit support this year for Germany’s far-right AfD.
“The Heritage Foundation and the entire MAGA alliance appear to be succeeding in uniting Europe’s far-right parties in a way those parties haven’t been able to achieve on their own,” Haar adds.
Nile Gardiner, Director of European Policy at the Heritage Foundation, sees signs of a shift already: “A wind of change is blowing through Europe, including the Netherlands. There’s growing distrust of the concentration of power among unelected bureaucrats in Brussels.”
Brussels Silent
The European Commission has yet to respond to the ambitions coming from Washington. But according to Hungarian journalist Panyi, Brussels should be paying close attention to the far-reaching American involvement in European politics.
“We see that two EU member states—Hungary and Poland—are trying to shape the future of the EU outside of official decision-making procedures. They are enlisting the help of the U.S. in the hope that Trump will put pressure on the European Commission. That’s a threat.”
Gardiner, on the other hand, sees it as an opportunity. “Europe works best when it is a collaboration between sovereign nation states. The EU, by contrast, is about concentrating political power in Brussels. In 20 to 30 years, the EU will look very different than it does today.”
Disclosure
For this report, Nieuwsuur investigated the plans of European and American think tanks regarding the political future of Europe. Nieuwsuur spoke with experts, MEPs, and journalists from France, the Netherlands, Czechia, Hungary, the UK, Germany, and Poland. We interviewed the following sources:
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Szabolcs Panyi, Hungarian investigative journalist, who uncovered The Great Reset project.
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Kenneth Haar, Danish researcher with the Corporate Europe Observatory, an independent organization tracking U.S. lobbying efforts in the EU.
The U.S. State Department declined to comment on Nieuwsuur's questions. The European Commission has not yet responded. Any future statements will be added here.
They should focus on their own political system... We like democracy, F*** off
Fuck you Donald! You are immigrants from Europe and therefore we are the Grandparents of your country.
Bitch.
Does someone know what's the overall sentiment of the German far-right wing to the Russian invasion of Ukraine? Obviously the AfD is pro-Russia, and the far-right shares similar views on queer people - or "LGBT extremism" as the Russian state calls it - for example, but on the other hand I can also see them showing sympathy for Ukraine with controversial figures like Oleksandr Alfiorov as head of the Ukrainian Institute of National Memory.
The modern far-right is heavily Pro-Russia overall. It's the strongest in East Germany where there is also a lot of nostalgia for the GDR, both from the right and the left.
Add in some public AfD-figures making claims like "Hitler was a communist" and there is just infinite confusion and anyone ends up being free to believe whatever fits their view.
So you have far-right people opposing Ukraine because Ukraine had a Nazi-Battalion and you have far-right people claiming the Nazis were actually leftists. There's no logic to be found here, but it all boils down to them being fans of Russia and gobbling up whatever gets pushed in their Facebook/Instagram/Twitter-Feeds.
I found a (possibly outdated) interesting German analysis paper by the Amadeu Antonio Foundation from March 2022 on how right wing extremists and conspiracy ideologists reacted to the conflict.
As it was mentioned, most of the far right (especially the AfD of course) is pro Russia. There is a smaller Nazi party called "Der III. Weg" (The third way) which is an interesting outlier though. They're very pro Ukraine since they had good contacts with the Azov battalion even before the war. They claim that Ukraine is "fighting against Caucasian invaders of Europe", call Russia "Neo bolshevists", say they are supporting "anti white riots" in Africa and so on.
I was looking at moving to Germany soon, can anyone there tell me if it is just headed towards US-levels of fascism? I feel like a lot of the news articles I read say as much, but I don't unfortunately know if the sources are the equivalent of FOX News or what.
You already got good answers but I'm going to add this:
- There's nothing special about Germany here. Many if not most EU countries suffer from far-right populist parties rising - however, within a democratic parliamentary system.
- This is very much a matter of degrees. Let's say the US is 90% fascism, Germany is orders of magnitude less than that. There's a lot to be added here, the USA's long history of weakening checks and balances, Germany's strong post-WW2 constitution etc.
English language news are (still) obsessed with Germany's past and every Nazi thing out of Germany will get amplified 10x more than, say, out of France or Sweden.
I don't think that will happen. We are watchful of everything working towards that direction.
And the racism is not nearly as open as in the US even in areas where the AfD is strong.
Belgian here. Can you guys watch harder please thanks
Will try
Didn't AFD became the second biggest in the last elections? And a less far right, more center right party CDU became first, but its cutting it pretty close... What a wonderful world we live in
It‘s more that CDU became more „center right“ by German standards rather than them suddenly getting many votes. Merkel used to be chairwomen of the party when she was chancellor and most Americans would consider her left leaning. The party was a lot more popular back then too so becoming more right wing likely lost them a lot of votes.
The AfD is also confirmed right wing extremist by official watchdog agencies meaning it‘s eligible to get banned. So far the current coalition has not made any move to vote for a ban, claiming they want to defeat them politically. But that did not work out once in the last 10 years and will 100% fail. I expect either the CDU to completely implode soon or a ban of the AfD. Although it‘s questionable how effective a ban will be because some of their members will definitely start a new far right party immediately.
Although it‘s questionable how effective a ban will be because some of their members will definitely start a new far right party immediately.
True, its also America meddling in Europe with their far right allies to overthrow European government and replace them with far right leaders, still it baffles me how many people are so racist. Not just in Germany this is also happening in The Netherlands. Fucking shameful... I try to win people over but they keep being racists, its kind of hard to bring them to have empathy for others, just makes me hopeless for this world and idk if I wanna live in it tbh my moral compass in the way
"biggest party" also doesn't imply what it might in a US context. It's still a minority of the country. The overwhelming majority of the country is anti-AfD
Germany is not heading toward a Trump style regime. The big Conservative Party CDU has not forming a coalition with the AfD as a rule. The other parties will also do everything to keep AfD from power. Of course that doesn’t mean this can’t change. The current political climate is still favorable to the AfD and they are able to consolidate and expand their operations and supporters.
The AfD is big and has success in elections both local and federal. However there are internal factions, that don’t fully agree. A national-libertarian-conservative wing faces a völkisch neo-fascist wing. The AfD has not found their great charismatic leader like Trump yet. It could fracture as well.
The next federal elections are in four years. The current government has to be able to present some major achievements in the areas of cost of living, migration, and especially the economy. An end to the wars in Ukraine and Gaza would also help.
Even if the AfD becomes the biggest party in the next federal elections, a government of national unity or a minority government is more likely.
Institutions and laws in Germany are designed to prevent a fascist takeover. Of course this is no guarantee.
There’s also an ongoing attempt at making the AfD an illegal organization opposed to the state. A success there would mean it would have to disband and couldn’t participate in elections.
The political climate in Germany is more polarized than it used to be, but it’s not at US levels.
Dude hwo fought against Russians joined a pro-Russian party?
America doesn't have the monopoly on stupid. Although we do have a surplus of it.