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A promise to expose a corrupt elite has turned into a perceived cover up, and the powerful online influencers who helped elect Donald Trump are now in open revolt.

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[–] Linktank@lemmy.today 87 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

He'd probably play better to them if he just admitted it.

[–] Wazowski@lemmy.world 23 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Pretty sure the majority of them would jump at the opportunity to rape a 12-year old.

[–] Zirconium@lemmy.world 8 points 15 hours ago

Moms for liberty probably support it as long as the girls are married

[–] ceenote@lemmy.world 9 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I can't tell if they didn't expect fallout like this, or if the files are so incriminating, even after redactions, that this fallout is still preferable. We'll probably never know, but I'd bet on the latter.

[–] krashmo@lemmy.world 7 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

We've known for years that Trump regularly sexually assaults women and has for his whole adult life. What would confirming that he did so on a few more occasions in the 90s change?

[–] nulluser@lemmy.world 12 points 15 hours ago

Because in this case they probably weren't women.

[–] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 5 points 9 hours ago

We’ve known for years that trump regularly sexually assaults children, too. Trump and Epstein were co-defendants in a case in 2016 that was only dropped because the plaintiff was getting death threats, and being followed and harassed in person by hired goons.

I can’t copy-paste from pdfs on my phone for some reason, but if you have the stomach for it, pages 4-5 in that case file are especially damning. (NSFW)

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 59 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (2 children)

Pam Bondi invited influencers to the White House and handed them big binders that

accusing Bondi’s Justice Department of “covering up Jeffrey Epstein’s crimes and murder.

Time for us to hear from FBI agents.

Notice the pattern? No one, not one would dare point a finger at where this buck stops: Trump.

Doing so is engagement suicide. And that’s how they make their living.

Hence, this headline is total BS. They may be mad, but none, not under any circumstance, would turn on Trump. They literally can’t. They will blame anyone under him first, which is already orthodox.

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 6 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

In a monarchy you can criticize the Prime Minister or any other minister in government, but it's treason to speak out against the King. If the King does something bad it's because he got bad advice from the PM. Even the opposition party is called the Loyal Opposition, as you're meant to maintain loyalty to the King even while expressing opposition to the government.

Nowadays most monarchies are constitutional and the King's speeches are written by the Prime Minister so it's actually correct to criticize the PM for the things the King says.

It's interesting how the MAGAs are behaving in exactly the same way people behave in a monarchy. Unfortunately the President isn't constitutionally limited so King Trump can do whatever he wants.

I really do think that a constitutional monarchy is better than a republic now. We have people in Canada that also believe that you prove your patriotism by being loyal to a guy that surrounds himself with gold. But they can bow to King Charles and it doesn't matter because he has no political power. Gotta have a King so the subservient part of the population can feel happy without fucking things up by creating a King that has power.

[–] frazorth@feddit.uk 3 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

In a monarchy you can criticize the Prime Minister or any other minister in government, but it's treason to speak out against the King.

What?

The king can go fuck himself.

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[–] Zirconium@lemmy.world 3 points 10 hours ago

You're right cause the conservative subreddit doesn't dare to say the T word, they just say "both parties are the same" and other centrist takes the moment trump does something they don't like

[–] Zephorah@discuss.online 42 points 16 hours ago (4 children)

Is he? MAGA doesn’t care. I just talked to a MAGA today. It’s press sensationalism and bullshit, to them. I reliably get the parrot of the main byline in play from that MAGA, and that was the word today. They don’t care.

This reads more like the commondreams, dailybeast, newrepublic, HuffPost headline echo chamber filler that always tell you what you want or expect to hear.

[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 20 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

A sample size of one isn't something you draw conclusions from. That's just bad science. Now if you said you work somewhere that everyone is a Trump supporter, 50-200 people, and they're all saying this, then yeah, I'd believe you. But, a sample size of one, come on man.

[–] Zephorah@discuss.online 5 points 16 hours ago

Fair. But it fits the trend. We’ll see how it goes with others this week.

I can get no one to admit any iota of criticism towards trump in any conversation. The only thing I’ve heard from the MAGAs is “his social media should be better”, and that’s it. It’s a wall of unity and parroted statements.

Even the insurrection wasn’t an insurrection, but a few bad players or, my favorite, paid performers, that went too far.

I’ve yet to hear any MAGA in alignment with these commondreams, newrepublic, dailybeast, HuffPost headlines that try to grab onto what the left wants, or even needs, to hear, since 2016.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 2 points 16 hours ago

Read the Tweets the article is quoting. Do you see a single one criticizing Trump directly, not an underling?

[–] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 6 points 13 hours ago

I think we have seen that MAGA isn’t one body, that there were the tech-bro MAGA Doge edgelords, and the MAGA who opposed them.

This is the point in every “successful” movements story where they have won the struggle for power, and start receiving the bounty. And realise that the leadership idea of bounty doesn’t match their expectations.

Just like a soldier who goes hard for the recruiter’s promises of glory and honour, but realises it’s a life of being an utter bastard, and dying in a pool of their own blood and shit and their friends body parts.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 2 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

This reads more like the commondreams, dailybeast, newrepublic, HuffPost headline echo chamber filler that always tell you what you want or expect to hear.

Gizmodo isn't bad, but they're also kinda known for this among the tech press.

It's why they're still alive I guess...

[–] Zephorah@discuss.online 2 points 15 hours ago

The part that makes things feel doomed in a Google search engine enshittification kind of way is when the articles with similar vein headlines read almost verbatim to one another, like everyone is scraping from everyone else instead of doing their own organic work on it.

But if you only ever doom scroll headlines, which some individuals do, you’ll never catch that pattern.

[–] aceshigh@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

How many people are actually maga? MAGA and r’s share some beleifs and the r’s are starting to realize that their pastry has been taken over by the alt right.

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[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 31 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

“Pam Bondi invited influencers to the White House and handed them big binders that literally said ‘Epstein Files’ in huge bold letters on the front. If the files never existed then why did the White House do that?” Walsh demanded. In another post, he added: “The Attorney General said she had the client list on her desk. The White House made a big show of giving binders marked ‘Epstein Files: Phase 1’ to a bunch of influencers. Now they tell us that there is no list and we should stop talking about it.”

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 16 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

They were either lying then, or lying now. Or both.

[–] sundray@lemmus.org 3 points 15 hours ago

Trump: "They told me there was a list. Everybody said there was a list, and people told me we had it and we were going to release it. But you know what? But you know what? There wasn't any list folks, they lied to me and to you, isn't that awful? Just terrible, unbelievable."

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 3 points 14 hours ago

Definitely both

[–] d00phy@lemmy.world 28 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

Thing is, they may well be angry with him. The big question is are they angry enough to vote for a DEMOCRAT!? Or to not vote and risk a LIBRUL winning!? I doubt it.

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 21 points 18 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Quadhammer@lemmy.world 4 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

You should read the memo circling around

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 2 points 15 hours ago

There's a memo?

[–] Drusas@fedia.io 15 points 13 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world 5 points 13 hours ago

It takes a little more for some to perceive the obvious.

[–] womjunru@lemmy.cafe 14 points 17 hours ago

Donald Trump, a rapist, is losing popularity among men who want to rape.

🤪😂🥹

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 12 points 8 hours ago

must really chap their nips that no matter how many vids they put out about women in their 20's being "past their prime" they still can't influence pedophilia into the mainstream

[–] Scotty_Trees@lemmy.world 12 points 2 hours ago

"Trump losing" this and losing that is a bunch of smoke and mirrors. His support will not dip. JFC how many articles, "this time it will be the end of Trump" stfu this is noise, this is not news.

🤞 pls gain momentum

[–] vocornflakes@lemmy.world 8 points 2 hours ago

No he's not. I basically refuse to believe that anyone exists that is capable of walking back their support of Trump.

[–] Lodespawn@aussie.zone 8 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

How the hell did they find a photo of Trump without any spray tan?!

Also they're annoyed that they are not privy to that sweet pwning of the libs the were promised, but not that their god-king is likely a paedophile.

Look by his ear he still has it on it’s just a more natural shade.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 7 points 10 hours ago

he just hired one of the ghouls as ambassador to malaysia.

[–] elucubra@sopuli.xyz 7 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Trump an Alpha male? He's essentially a Gamma male-ish poser

[–] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

He's barely human. I have trouble believing he has conscious thoughts. He acts on animal instinct at the same level as a toddler. He's basically one of the most failed humans in history

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

He himself said that he hasn't changed since either 1st grade or kindergarten. He thought he was bragging. He didn't realize he was telling the truth.

Again, it doesn't matter how popular or unpopular Trump is. He is a "lame duck" President now. He either cannot run again (if the law meant anything at all), or he will have fucked up the election integrity so bad to allow him to run again that nothing about the election will be legitimate and it will be rigged AF. The only ones that need to be worried about popularity are the congressmen and women that are still electable and are supporting his speed run into dictatorship. In 2026, if the elections are not already rigged by then, we have one last chance to remove his cronies and the useless spineless Dems that are standing by while our democracy crumbles. And then those new congresspeople will have an uphill battle fighting back against a mad president and a bought SCOTUS. Otherwise, it doesn't matter if zero people actually vote for him. Dictatorships dont give a fuck about democracy.

[–] couldhavebeenyou@lemmy.zip 5 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

They´ll have moved on after ~~two~~ less than a week~~s~~

[–] Prethoryn@lemmy.world 4 points 3 hours ago

Clickbait,

MAGA's don't give a shit the guy could literally come out a pedo and someone would still support him.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 3 points 6 hours ago

I wonder what those idiots grief about? Did they hope to get their idol exposed as a child-fucker? Like "He stronk, he get away with serious crime"?

[–] kepix@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago

it was quite well known before musk ratted him out. theres like a trillion pictures of him with epstein. also...you know...if all of these made up "trump lost this and that believer" were true, he would have no followers left. yet ice and racism is blooming.

[–] Pratai@lemmy.world 3 points 16 hours ago

No he isn’t.

[–] Bebopalouie@lemmy.ca 2 points 16 hours ago

Hopefully soon every sect or group that follows the orange scumbag will fall off.

[–] resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world 2 points 16 hours ago

Oh no how unfortunate.

[–] Tempus_Fugit@midwest.social 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I feel like at the end of the day most of them only care about exposing the Dems, which is noble and fantastic, but they're not ready for their heroes to be exposed.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 10 hours ago

also the fact many of them are donors, that arelikely donating to both PARTIES.

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