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Just as the Liberals have moved to the right with Carney, the Conservative party has moved further towards the hard-right.
Look south to the US for a taste of what sort of people I'm talking about. They care about nothing but hatred, suffering, conspiracies, and oppression.
A lot of moderate conservatives are happy with Carney though. They've been wanting someone like him for years.
Doug Ford is going to throw a wrench into things.
Because the Lib/Con duality is a farce. Team A and Team B both work for team C. Team C is all about money and power. They are both Neocons. One plays the part of the carrot, the other the stick. They ramp up or down the fear of the stick or desire for a carrot to keep 3rd parties out.
Why do the cons complain? Because it's all disingenuous! Because it's all a piece of bad theatre. Everyone knows their roles and parts to play. The words are just lines. The play sucks. The play was meant to suck. It was written to suck and the casting requires good and bad actors alike to play their characters.
It is stupid, but so are we.
Yeah, it’s like WWE but with worse scripts and higher stakes. Everyone boos and cheers on cue while Team C cashes the paychecks.
I suggest you get familiar with concept of the Overtone window and how it has been shifting to the right for the past, pffft dix decades?
If the Overton window only moved right, how did we get $10-a-day daycare, legal weed, and record climate spending?
It's moved a further right since the NDP/LPC supply and confidence agreement. The carbon tax became politically toxic. There's no serious discussion of climate action - Alberta and Trump have seen to that. We aren't talking about any kind of wealth redistribution or tax increases on the wealthy (remember the capital gains reform?). There's no discussion of serious spending to directly alleviate the housing or healthcare crisis.
Taxed to work, taxed to live, and nothing really changes. We fund the system just to run in circles, classic hamster wheel economics.
Because they don't vote based on political policy...they vote based on political identity.
"What's the platform?", "Hating the other guys.", Modern democracy, in a nutshell.
Erin O'Toole was the most left leaving Conservative nominee in decades, if not ever. We still complained about him/the prospect of him winning, yeah?
Yep. And his own party booted him for it.
Because their ENTIRE IDENTITY is grievance politics. If they cannot have their way, and, of far greater importance, force their way on YOU, well what's the point of chewing through the gurney straps and escaping the institute every morning then?
~~Facist~~ capitalist media and CBC being held accountable for it’s deficit make the perfect ground to watch the dead of the 4th power, the one that was supposed to protect the people
Nothing screams ‘fascist media’ like CBC giving free airtime to every political party and taking criticism from both sides.
Taking criticism from both sides is a well known tactic against climate change fact or are you talking about something else ?
Sadly in the present political landscape we have three type of parties : facists, enablers and the rest
Calling everyone fascist or an enabler isn’t insight, it’s intellectual laziness.
You’re not refuting what I’m saying and you’re right that calling everyone a facist is intellectual laziness.
But thinking that Carney don’t enable politics that help racism is being blind. PP did puff piece in the more vile « media » in Canada some of them had literal facist tie, Carney was elected against Trump/PP or because he was the solution against. Now he’s recinding laws against big tech because Trump show him his tariffs, he’s talking anti immigration laws and looking at Alberta with a new pipeline.
If he’s not an enabler, I have really a hard time calling him otherwise
Not that I like Trudeau, Trudeau permit the RCMP to use illegal tactics against BC First Nations at the profit of logging companies.
Liberal are enabler, they are the Democratic Party that show their « Shame » paddle when a literal facist is becoming head of state
TL; DR : liberal are enabler, they’re the lobbyists for the late stage capitalist state
Trudeau was fine his first term, but yeah, he got old fast. The only reason he lasted this long is because the Conservatives kept picking leaders who couldn’t win.
Are they complaining? Carney's approval is so high it's gotta include some portion of conservatives who're happy with him.
Power hunger
It’s just Reform Party members complaining
If they scrap the gun confiscation I might actually consider voting liberal in the future, don’t get me wrong here, I’m grateful we have a new PM with a different perspective but I’m very skeptical given that our current Public Safety Minister is unwilling to learn our laws and safety regulations In regard to firearm ownership.
given that our current Public Safety Minister is unwilling to learn our laws and safety regulations In regard to firearm ownership.
Bold statement given that it's his "third week on the job." But it gives a great opportunity to chortle about someone who likely never had an interest in guns past his eigth birthday not knowing what an RPAL is, as if that's the single most important subject the Minister of Safety has to deal with. Andy came in to do a hatchet job and he performed the task well.
There are no more conservatives. Only fascists.
That kind of thinking helps the actual fascists.
Sorry, I should distinguish them. There are two types of conservatives:
Historical note, both were hanged by the score after the war.
Yea call millions of people fascists, then act confused when no one listens to you.
There were millions of fascists in Germany. What's your point?
History is a warning, not a license to label everyone you disagree with.
The Conservative's slogan in 2025 was "Canada First. For a Change." That's standard fascistic nativism.
Poilievre was largely regarded as Canada's Trump.. He ran on the same brand of anger, grievance, right wing populism, immigrant bashing, and vile transphobia as Trump. The ONLY reason he is not Canada's prime minister right now is that Trump won and Canadians got a preview of what putting the conservatives in power would look like. Oh, and Trump threatening to annex Canada certainly didn't help him.
But fascist movements are rising around the world. Populist right wing authoritarianism is not unique to the US. It's a global trend. Trump is just the highest profile win of the new fascist movement.
And yes, modern conservative parties have been completely taken over by fascists. They're full of either enthusiast fascists or power-hungry craven fools who will look the other way and vote for fascist policies as long as it serves them politically. Aka, fascist collaborators.
You recoil with horror when I call conservatives fascist, but they LITERALLY just ran an overtly fascist campaign. If a fascist getting elected in a neighboring country tanks your political campaign...what does that say about you?
There’s a difference between rejecting Liberal policies and embracing authoritarianism. Most Canadians get that.
I recall a lot of Americans having this same type of rhetoric when people would call MAGA fascists during Trump's first term. Look where they are now, they're literally already opening concentration camps.
If you think the recent Conservative campaign didn't use a bunch of fascist rhetoric and dogwhistles, you either weren't paying attention or don't recognize the early stages of fascist movements.
You mean authoritarianism like vowing to knowingly pass unconstitutional laws and use the notwithstanding clause to keep them in force? Is that the "totally not embracing authoritarianism" you're talking about?
PP literally help facist « media » in his campaign, I’m mean OP is not far from the truth
At this rate, we’ll go from a fiscally conservative Liberal to a socially moderate Conservative and honestly, that’s probably good for Canada.