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And guess what ... most of the people who 'did what they could' just kept driving their cars. 'What choice did we have?' None.

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[–] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 53 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

He is partly right. We're fucked. Seriously seriously fucked. He is also incorrect, in that without radical action to deviate from our current trajectory, it can and will get much much worse.

[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 9 points 17 hours ago

Only one way that happens though.

[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 17 points 18 hours ago (4 children)

I think everyone agrees.

It's now Us v Them. People need to start realizing that.

[–] compostgoblin@piefed.blahaj.zone 9 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

I absolutely do not agree. Will things get worse? Yes, no sugar-coating it. But every fraction of a degree matters, and defeatism gets us nowhere. There’s still plenty to be done. So either get on board with helping, or stay out of the way, rather than trying to drag the rest of us down.

[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world -5 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

Welp, while you're sitting around thinking about it, I guess everyone else has to scrap shit to live.

Good for you in being neutral.

[–] compostgoblin@piefed.blahaj.zone 3 points 14 hours ago

I’m not sure how you got there from what I said

[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 3 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

So not only is it "Us vs Them", it's "If you're not with us 100%, you're against us".

[–] Chocrates@lemmy.world 8 points 18 hours ago

I'm so scared how many people just keep on keeping on and have no cares.

[–] Naz@sh.itjust.works 7 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

No fuck that. We're all in this together.

Tribalism ensures everyone's defeat as the world burns

[–] answersplease77@lemmy.world 14 points 16 hours ago

Tribalism does't mean we should not fight and replace them. They will burn down the world but want you to suffer most and die first. They drove you into this for their wealth and economy.

If you don't want to fight and replace them, then keep on recycling your plastic straws while fossil-fuel companies pump trillons of CO2 cubic feets in air and their execs and your government officals pump trillions of dollars, of the same money you work and pay for, into their pockets.

[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world -2 points 16 hours ago

Nah. Get lost.

[–] Hereforpron2@lemmynsfw.com 4 points 17 hours ago (2 children)
[–] answersplease77@lemmy.world 12 points 16 hours ago

billionares and super wealthy government officials and fossil-fuel execs who get paid too-much-to-say-no to burning the world with you in it

[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 9 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Lookup fascism.

It's anyone "they" convince you is "them".

[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 2 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Don't forget to check out which people use the "Us vs Them" mentality the most :)

[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world -1 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Using it to describe the vernacular is different than employing the tactic.

Mussolini, Hitler, and Stalin are all dead.

Seems it's a safe thing to describe it.

[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 1 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Why is it a safe way to describe it? Just because you deem yourself on the "right side" doesn't make the mentality any less dangerous.

[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world -2 points 14 hours ago

.......are you an insane person?

For fucking real. What exactly are you trying to justify here in this comment?

[–] Vespair@lemmy.zip 17 points 13 hours ago

This is why the rich are trying to cull the poor. I'm not joking. What you see happening is very much by design, and the wealthy think it's necessary. They believe the most effective way to fight climate change is to get rid of all the poors and undesirables

[–] ter_maxima@jlai.lu 15 points 10 hours ago

This may well be true, or false ; it is a dangerous thing to believe regardless. It will always be better for the world to believe we can improve it.

[–] mesamunefire@piefed.social 12 points 17 hours ago (6 children)

So, realistically, what can a rando do?

[–] bizarroland@fedia.io 22 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Nothing. It's not our individual fault. It's going to keep going no matter what you or I do (short of terrorism) until the whole thing crashes down around us.

[–] mesamunefire@piefed.social 4 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

Sure but what can one tangably do? Go to areas that are probably going to do well (or just not terrible) in the coming years?

[–] Doom@ttrpg.network 14 points 16 hours ago

To be honest the problem is we built a broken system.

Part 1, most companies can't afford to gamble. They can't afford switching to paper straws, the margins are that tight and we wanna talk about cutting CEOs that will work for some companies but not most.

Part 2, there's no help from the government, any of them. they were all ineffective and more interested in flirting with resource wars than collaborating for the benefit of all.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca -4 points 16 hours ago

tangably

tangibly?

[–] NotAnotherLemmyUser@lemmy.world 16 points 15 hours ago

If you have a lot of time and enough conviction:

Lobbying, petitions, run a non-profit organization to do so.

It takes a lot of time and it's frustrating, but look at what individuals like Louis Rossmann and Ross Scott have been able to pull off with Right to Repair and the Stop Killing Games Movement.

If you don't have as much time:

Donate some time to projects to help out. For example, take a look at some of the projects listed underneath "Climate" category on Zooniverse: https://www.zooniverse.org/projects?discipline=climate

Here's a description of the project, "ClimateViz":

Extract information from various climate scientific graphics to combat misinformation and support scientific communication

[–] BrightCandle@lemmy.world 11 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

Civilisation is ending, probably the whole of humanity and we will likely take much of the other animals with us. Humanity is an extinction event. Its all over but for dying now, just carry on living your life and just know this is it, we failed the great filter. We could have done something about this once we understood the problem from any point from the 19th century onwards but the failure of Kyoto agreement in the 1990s marked the point where we were always going to fail, it was the last moment where correction could save us. The last tipping point will happen in the next year or two and then a whole bunch more of unknown events will occur that we didn't even predict. The temperature growth will continue to accelerate.

[–] Onyxonblack@lemmy.zip 2 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

This comment could be from the future it's so accurate.

[–] kalkulat@lemmy.world 8 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

We can do what we can do to stop making it worse. Work togetther to change our habits. Do what we can to make do with less and feel good about it. "Every dollar is a vote", definitely. Work with the people who know what's in store for them, like farmers. Skip a trip now and then. Use mass transit more. Keep improving our home, if we have one, so it's better-insulated. Use better options for heating (wear more clothes instead of burning more fuel) and cooling. Stop admiring consumption and buy lasting, healthier products. Walk away from wasteful consumption, the investors will turn elsewhere unless companies respond.

We can keep in mind the world we're making, and how we will best to live in it. And become living examples of alternatives that are inevitable.

[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 5 points 14 hours ago
[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 11 points 12 hours ago

Sounds.... Completely correct honestly.

[–] kalkulat@lemmy.world 7 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

"It seems that we live in a very dark time, and we do. The human race has been on a very destructive path for quite a while, and we have these hideous weapons and hideous powers that can turn that destructive path into true cataclysm.

But at the same time, an awakening is occurring and that awakening is being leveraged through the internet. It’s a consciousness awakening all around the world. And it’s that awakening of consciousness that the best hope for the future of humanity lies. - Graham Hancock

[–] masterofn001@lemmy.ca 12 points 13 hours ago

Lol. The great awakening is that everyone is fucked and they've been suckered by cults led by the rich.

Oh, wait, no, they haven't learned anything or awakened one bit.

If only the pyramids could energy cube our alien salvation!