This moron really fits in with the MAGA crowd...
this post was submitted on 05 Jul 2025
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Come on and cut them a little slack. What besides everything the man has ever done would ever lead them to think that he would betray them?
I mean trump didn't betray them on immigration. It's one of the few things he was pretty honest about
Yes and no. Trump is two faced. He regularly holds multiple conflicting positions. He told everyone what they wanted to hear. Compounding the problem, many people build media and information / confirmation by us bubbles around themselves. Where the conflicting message never penetrates. Not to say that there aren't plenty who hear the conflicting message but don't really care.
Yeah, true but since forever he's been demonizing immigrants and talking about cracking down on them
Oh even further than that. All the way back to the '60s and 70s easily. With his persecution of blacks and the Central Park 5. Immigrants are just the most recent Target of his narcissistic bigotry.
Our media at every level barely ever served us. But it's complete failure in the last half century only facilitated all this. Even those of us here are at risk of being encapsulated in our own little media bubbles and manipulated.
Not sure how we get ourselves out from this. Individually we can value and employ critical thinking. But how do you convince people at Large? When confirmation bias is so much more comforting.
I mean, I know about all you've mentioned from media sources. People have to care and pay attention. But they just don't.
Absolutely. And that's the real problem. Until we get that figured out. I don't think anything is going to change. Today we have all the information in the world at our fingertips. But also all the disinformation in the world. Critical thinking is the only thing that can separate them. But it's A Hard Sell unfortunately. At least until someone's life or personal possessions depend on understanding it. So there is some hope that only after things have gotten far too bad.
It appears that the credulous Fox "news" watchers really did believe that there were violent immigrant gang members in massive numbers all over the country, as they've been told for decades now. Anyone who understood that's not the case wasn't surprised that "mass deportation" meant rounding up gardeners and construction workers (duh!). But Rogan and his listeners bought into the idea that only the thousands of cartel mobsters that were taking over the country under weak Democrat rule would suffer.
Those were imaginary baddies all along! Tell your listeners that, Joe!
Joe Rogan does not get the benefit of the doubt. He’s just a goddamn liar.
Propaganda pays well.
Not to mention the fact that if cartel drug leaders were so easy to round up deport, we would’ve done it already. Or, at least, put them in jail.
But it’s a lot easier to target innocent, defenseless people.
They believed there were millions of these criminals, because Trump promised to deport millions of them.
This is a temp check for his audience. Will he lose listeners? Have to play all sides, because soon MAGA will feel the hit of this bill, and if you're against Trump but ex MAGA. You might be the perfect place to listen. That will be Joe Rogan.
Ex-MAGA. Still hates the Dems. Still on the mansphere bullshit.
Correct, always feeling out the schisms. Roll it back if it gets out PR-ed or is broadly hated. If not, you corner that market too.
Spot on.
If you're getting fooled by Trump in 2025 it's all on you there's absolutely no excuse to trust a word. I could have said the same thing 20 years ago too.
How did he betray you Joe? He's doing everything he promised.
I’m glad he’s saying it, but it’d be nice if he fucking put the time and effort in to figure this out before the election like we all did. This wasn’t a secret, it was practically plastered on billboards.
historically this is one of the quickest instances of "they will go for others not me" getting debunked
How did he betray you Joe? He's doing everything he promised.