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I guess some people thought it was AI, but just a cool moment in my basement window well.

Edit: taken with my iPhone several years ago since that’s all I had with me when it happened so quickly.

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[–] k0e3@lemmy.ca 138 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 52 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I for one, welcome our new pinecone overlord.

[–] Aatube@kbin.melroy.org 20 points 4 months ago

in fact i pine over its shining beauty

[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 74 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (13 children)

I remember trying to warn people on Reddit that their anti-AI crusades were going to hurt real people making real art, especially surrealists, and got banned from a bunch of art subs for being “pro-AI” as a result. Actually, they phrased it in far more hurtful and inflammatory ways, like “advocating theft.” Apparently caring about not hurting real human beings making real human art is “advocating theft.”

I don’t miss Reddit. That place was bad for my mental health.

P.S. This photo is beautiful and I’m happy you had a mind to capture it and share it. Thank you.

[–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 10 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

It's the same shit on lemmy

I was watching a video yesterday where the video author said it was sketchy that another ytber had used an AI voice but still credited the original voice actor the Ai voice was based on, the voice actor also chimed in that they agreed and were still being paid even though the AI voice was being used.

Literally every time I see arguments against AI from creative it's because losing income/stealing, he hit both those and yet that is still not good enough.

The goal posts will ever shift and the rage will never end.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

I got banned from a fandom subreddit for pointing out that a certain fan remaster was (partially, with tons of manual work) made with ML models. Specifically with oldschool GANs, and some smaller, older models as part of a deinterlacing pipeline, from before 'generative AI' was even a term.

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[–] mgenehoffman@sh.itjust.works 8 points 4 months ago

Thank you! And yes, I mean I realize it’s a two sided battle. I legitimately hate gen AI and what it was done to the art world. My current career is in the process of being completely devoured by AI and taking photos is something that brings me a lot of joy and connects me to the real world, so it’s infuriating to have both the loss of my career and denigration of my photography due to AI.

[–] chunes@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago

It's the same thing for writing. Use a single emdash and you get accused of using LLMs. It's like, no, I'm literate. I read books. Sorry for paying attention in class..

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[–] anubis119@lemmy.world 46 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I highly doubt AI would properly generate a Fibonacci sequence in the pinecones.

[–] Lembot_0004@discuss.online 43 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Eat it for permanent +0 to HP.

[–] dharmacurious@slrpnk.net 11 points 4 months ago

Completely unrelated, but tonight I opened an app to look for hotels, and it greeted me with a message that I had a "0% off" coupon for my next booking

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[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 43 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)
[–] rbos@lemmy.ca 7 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I gotta check if Laid Back Camp has a new series!

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[–] Couldbealeotard@lemmy.world 40 points 4 months ago (2 children)

To be fair, I totally understand why people think it's AI. Between the phone camera processes and the extreme postprocessing, this looks more deep fried than some memes I've seen. It almost looks like it's got a cartoon filter applied.

Add on the fact that OP is trying hard to down play how much editing has been done, it starts to feel like it doesn't add up. If OP posted the unedited photo to show the bad phone sharpening and admitted how much editing was done on top of that, people would understand what they are looking at.

Don't get me wrong, it looks cool, but when someone says "oh, no I just took this with my phone", I look at that and think that's not the whole truth.

[–] mgenehoffman@sh.itjust.works 7 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (6 children)

Thanks for your meaningful, informed, and helpful contribution.

Of course it’s edited. Pro tip: every image is edited. Nothing anyone sees is raw from the sensor. It’s all completely arbitrary. Even people who shoot film show edited photos, they just offload the editing to the film lab. Someone else is doing the processing for them.

Even direct from a digital camera to jpeg, the camera is performing countless transformations and adjustment s before burning to jpeg. See film emulations on Fuji cameras for example.

The entire point of photography is to present to people a compelling vision that feels the way you did when you saw it.

That being said, this is basic curve and a vignette.

[–] Smc87@lemmy.sdf.org 18 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] UntitledQuitting@reddthat.com 8 points 4 months ago

+1 OP, I wanna see it without

[–] gleb@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago

post the original, then.

[–] FluorideMind@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Bro got caught and is trying to say everything is edited.

[–] KingOfTheCouch@lemmy.ca 10 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I mean, it's basic settings in like every fucking phone for the last 15 years? Get over yourselves - you aren't judges at National Geographic photographer of the year, it's a neat pic dude wanted to share.

Let people share neat things.

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[–] vxx@lemmy.world 30 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Too much HDR. I can see why they thought it's AI.

Still a nice shot. The composion and framing is nice.

[–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Composition*, fellow human.

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[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Honestly, deep fried images usually give me a headache but this one is actually pretty nice. I think the horrible HDR gives it a painting like quality.

[–] mgenehoffman@sh.itjust.works 7 points 4 months ago (2 children)

It’s not HDR, it’s a single shot and no tone mapping has been done. Just levels adjustment that could have been done in a physical darkroom.

The number of things that confuse people in this image really surprises me, but I’m assuming you’re talking about the light beam, which is the sun raking concrete at a very sharp angle. The detail it’s exposing on the concrete is actually just like that, even in the raw image.

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[–] mgenehoffman@sh.itjust.works 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It’s not HDR. It’s a single shot, slightly underexposed so we don’t lose the highlight detail. The rest of the work could have been done in a physical darkroom. But thank you.

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[–] pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 4 months ago

Welcome to lemmy

[–] OldManBOMBIN@lemmy.world 21 points 4 months ago

I have a mental image of you in a basement sweatshop in Philadelphia- the air is full of smoke and there's a constant barrage of German speeches and gunfire being played over the loudspeaker, broken only by the occasional steam whistle. You take a longing glance out the window, wishing you were on one of the higher floors so you could jump. And there is it.

Pinecone.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago (2 children)

The Holy Pine Cone of Allentown.

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[–] hakunawazo@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago

conus pineae divinae

[–] shark_phenomenon@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago

r/pics is a massive joke anyways. Screw that sub!

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (4 children)

"Obviously" has been a conclusive reason to condemn things since social media began. So of course "obviously AI" falls under that impeccable standard.

Also just curious, is taking photos with an iPhone something people apologize for now? I don't keep up with all the latest acceptibility rules.

[–] mgenehoffman@sh.itjust.works 7 points 4 months ago (2 children)

It was more to denote the presence of Apple’s processing algorithms, which are possibly part of why people think it’s AI or painted. Lots of people on Reddit thought it was a painting and some pointed to the painterly look of details when zoomed into.

Lots of discussion about that being the result of Apple’s fusion algo, which merges many rapidly taken exposures to eliminate noise, at the expense of real detail.

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[–] ApollosArrow@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago (2 children)

TIL what a window well is. I would honestly love to see what it looks like from outside. Is there some kind of covered up grate on top?

[–] mgenehoffman@sh.itjust.works 33 points 4 months ago (1 children)

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Here it is several years later. It’s an office that I rent. The landlord apparently does not care about maintaining the windows.

[–] jacksilver@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I was so confused by the image initially as I hadn't seen a window well that deep before. This follow-up picture made it all click, thanks for sharing.

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[–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 10 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Well, stop feeding reddit's AI machine.

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[–] Aganim@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago

Nice, thanks for sharing! Maybe it's even something for c/accidentalrenaissance?

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago

Just as the prophecy foretold!

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