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[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 135 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Years ago they flashed up some bullet points of the ideas that AOC was talking about. Then quickly took them down when they realized that people would want those.

[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 53 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Shows how tone deaf they are on the regular that they keep making really excellent one slide promos of democratic socialism and think it shows bad things.

[–] Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net 23 points 1 day ago

More that it shows which side of the class divide they represent. Those things are good for the working class but that intrinsically makes it bad for the owning class. The goal of FOX, and the rest of mainstream media, is to condition people to believe that their personal interests align with that of the owning class instead of the working class.

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[–] CMDR_Horn@lemmy.world 56 points 1 day ago

Dont threaten me with a good time

[–] FinalRemix@lemmy.world 45 points 1 day ago (3 children)

But the idiots who watch fox news see these as negatives anyway. It's only "advertising" to people who wouldn't watch that tripe to begin with.

[–] HarkMahlberg@kbin.earth 49 points 1 day ago

I can already imagine my maga uncle: "$30 an hour to do what!? Flip burgers!? Fucking kids these days are so lazy, they should be grateful to make $5 an hour!"

This isn't some masterstroke from Mamdani, it's just Fox News laundering his ideas through the fascist filter.

[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 31 points 1 day ago

This is a classic mistake partisans of all types make. The supporters of our enemies are not a monolith. Sure, most will react negatively but some will like these ideas.

A lot of republicans support the party because they mistakenly think Trump and his allies are fighting against some evil cabal that controls society to make their lives miserable. These policies can help break through that misinformation, if it is shared through avenues that reach people. Fox News, for all its flaws, is one such place.

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[–] gmtom@lemmy.world 34 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

No, they are getting fed propaganda that these good policies are evil socialism and are therefore bad.

You're talking as if fox news viewers can think for themselves.

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 16 points 18 hours ago

Fox could really point at a democrat and be like "this fucker thinks it's his job to govern well, can you believe it? Fuck him, right?!" and at least 40 percent of the viewers would be shaking their heads in angry disgust

[–] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 31 points 1 day ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (3 children)

One idea I really want to see percolate into the Zeitgeist? A national wealth cap. We can have a world without billionaires. Though, they did kill the last guy who tried it.

My justification for it is simple. We do not allow people own nuclear weapons. We don't care how intelligent or moral a person is. We don't make them take a bunch of classes or earn a difficult-to-obtain license. We simply accept that no individual, however sane and moral, should have access to that level of power. It is simply too great a risk. Yet people like Bezos or Musk have so much wealth that they can, all on their own, cause a level of damage comparable to a nuclear weapon. Hell, those two have built actual privately owned machines with the explosive capability of modest nuclear devices. There is such a thing as a strategically dangerous level of wealth, where the wealth of a single individual makes them a national security risk. No one should have level wealth and power, period. The only way to obtain such power should be through democratic elections.

I would set such a cap at 1000x the median household income. That way it automatically grows with inflation, and it's a simple enough rule that it can be explained to anyone. Someone with an 8th grade education can understand what such a cap means. 1000x is not only a nice round number, but it also represents a nice break between wealth earned through working and wealth earned through labor arbitrage and hoarding. 1000x the median household income is about $80 million today. If a neurosurgeon or other members of our highest paid, most educationally-demanding fields were to work their entire life, live like a pauper, and invest every penny? They would still struggle to reach that 1000x cap. The only way to reach that level of wealth is to be born rich, to make your business arbitraging the labor of others, or to be a CEO of some sort. It's the kind of wealth that even the most frugal and well paid of workers would struggle to ever get near.

1000x the median household income. Everything beyond that is taxed at 100%. The ultra wealthy can either pay the tax, spend all their extra dollars, or get really into philanthropy. (Oh, and if you donate funds to a charity that you or your heirs control, that charity's assets counts towards the 1000x cap.) It really doesn't matter what they do with the extra money. The goal is to prevent the accumulation of strategically dangerous fortunes.

Tax the billionaires out of existence. And if they flee the country? So be it. Don't let the door hit you on your way out. And while they can leave, their wealth is largely in ownership of businesses that can't so easily be moved. The Waltons can leave the country if they want, but they can't take Walmart with them.

[–] ironhydroxide@sh.itjust.works 4 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

The biggest problem is, according to our current laws, investments aren't income. Thus musk and besos are likely already under that 1000x number.

[–] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 3 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

You're confused. I didn't say maximum income, I said maximum wealth.

[–] ironhydroxide@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

"I would set such a cap at 1000X average household income"

[–] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 hours ago

I don't think you understand the difference between income and wealth.

[–] P00ptart@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

The other option is the billionaires.

[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 3 points 11 hours ago (4 children)

I have been thinking on an absolute wealth cap on income and savings. It should be for both individuals and corporations. The corporations can have their cap increased by hiring employees, based on the wage of the employee. Employees themselves have income ranks, so someone like a CEO is capped at $100,000 a year, while a waitress is at $40,000. UBI for someone who doesn't work is at $10,000 annually. This forces the economy to control inflation and price goods according to what income levels that companies want to reach. UBI can also supply generic items, shelter, and services, so that money is used solely for luxury items or lifestyle upgrades. This gives workers the ability to strike or protest, since society isn't holding their wellbeing hostage.

Also, companies can sponsor an income lotto to increase their caps, that gives individuals increased income ranks without having to work. This helps address the workers that are replaced by AI. We need that sort of mechanism for an automated society, else many people will suffer terribly.

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[–] AmazingAwesomator@lemmy.world 28 points 1 day ago

everyone in new york needs to mail in their ballots and take their parents for a shitty road trip up state as a vacation during voting week 👍

[–] Embargo@lemmy.zip 22 points 1 day ago

Oh my god... What a cunt.

[–] lennybird@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)

"but hOw wiLl wE paY fOR iT?"

Besides the real answer being: return on investment,

I think the better question is how can we live like this?

I think the better question is: why does get 20 mansions while there is still 1 homeless child?

Another good question is: did anyone ask how we'd pay for the bombs dropped on Iran, or given to Israel?

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 4 points 11 hours ago

And that's why Zohran is great. He answers questions like this so well that interviewers stop asking, because they'll just be teeing him up to explain his platform in simple, easily understood detail

[–] mintiefresh@piefed.ca 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] P00ptart@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I can't vote for mayor of NYC, should uhh, should I get my dick out again or did we decide that didn't work?

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 5 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

No, no, it worked last time, I promise. 👀

[–] P00ptart@lemmy.world 4 points 21 hours ago

If you wanna see my dick, I don't need fascism as an excuse. 😘

[–] Not_mikey@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 1 day ago

So fox is doing the same thing liberal media did to trump... hopefully it ends the same way.

[–] LMurch@thelemmy.club 15 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

This is horrible. The worst. *presses the vote for Zohran button harder

[–] P00ptart@lemmy.world 1 points 5 minutes ago

If I was in that position, I'd try to be right amap.

[–] BigBenis@lemmy.world 11 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

You assume Fox News viewers actively think about what they're seeing on the screen rather than emotionally reacting to what the talking heads are telling them to fear.

[–] ATS1312@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 hour ago

CNN did enough free advertising for Trump in 2016 to help him win the primary.

Never underestimate the power of "freak factor" news becoming free ads.

[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Complaints from the "won't somebody please think of the children?!" crowd? Cannot be!

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 3 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

*clears throat in conservatism* Won't someone think of the fetuses? 😩

Ah, who am I kidding. What difference do they care to know?

[–] linkshulkdoingit69@lemmy.nz 5 points 21 hours ago

As soon as it's aged out of being a fetus it's known as an "unskilled worker" and begins being taxated.

[–] Rolder@reddthat.com 9 points 11 hours ago

Making me want to move to NYC

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 9 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

You'd think they'd at least try something like:

  • Pay for your neighbours' child care
  • Give aways to baby mamas
  • $30 minimum wage (4x national minimum)
[–] pugnaciousfarter@literature.cafe 4 points 38 minutes ago (1 children)
  • Pay for immigrant childcare with your tax dollar
  • Defunding police and giving money to black teen mothers
  • giving free handouts to lefties
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[–] Bluefalcon@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Fox is using this to sigmatis him. They know both parties will not support him. Even if he wins, they will make sure his programs fail. Then they can say socialism caused all the bad shit.

[–] P00ptart@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I dunno, they may be trying to scream "socialism!" Thinking it's along the line of "terrorism!" Thinking people will reject that in and of itself. Hopefully New Yorkers will be like "uhhh yeah, that's what we want." There are far more workers than elite, even in New York. Best of luck to him and the people of NYC.

[–] Bluefalcon@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 1 day ago

I believe and hope he will be their next mayor. I will not put it pass democrats or republicans to try and stop him at every turn.

Neither party wants him to succeed.

Republicans- Scary brown man Democrats- We have to hold onto power

Honestly, this is what's wrong with Dems. Straight up pussies. Very smart people but ZERO common sense.

[–] Apollonius_Cone@lemmy.world 8 points 15 hours ago

Stop threatening me with a good time.

[–] Scott_of_the_Arctic@lemmy.world 7 points 20 hours ago
[–] wulrus@lemmy.world 6 points 9 hours ago

Reminds me of an ad (!) German conservatives (CDU) made. I don't remember all the details, but it showed the politician as he stated something like: What the social democrats want to do would make housing in Berlin affordable again, thus removing real estate from the free market.

These people are in it so deep, they think that the common man would hate that just as much as they do.

[–] whostosay@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

We should all vote for him so we can watch it fail. Please for the love of God

[–] P00ptart@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

I'm not a resident, but I hope for the love of humanity that he wins.

[–] zildjiandrummer1@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

YUCK, livable wage!? Phuey, I spit in your general direction

[–] buzz86us@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Landlords be licking their lips for $5000 a month rents

[–] ATS1312@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 hour ago

I got news about that... Rent caps and socialized housing is on the platform too.

[–] olafurp@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

I think the R is ripe for some socialist ideology, they spend so much time demonizing the D that they could say "we promise baby money" and people will go nuts.

[–] Tiger666@lemmy.ca 1 points 10 hours ago

If only socialism was this. What a world we live in.

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