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[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 137 points 1 day ago

No surprise they wear the mark of the beast on their foreheads.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 65 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The timeline in the article doesn't line up with that picture.

Sounds like there was a nasty divorce in 2015 between the parents, including a restraining order.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 86 points 1 day ago (1 children)

We've got an article, I'm sure there will be more coming out. It's his mom and stepdad:

Social media accounts for his parents show that his dad, a U.S. Army veteran, and his mom, a pet groomer, have each divorced and remarried. Each has made Facebook posts in support of President Donald Trump and right-wing politics, but there is no indication their son shares their views.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/wess-roley-identified-as-man-accused-of-killing-idaho-firefighters/

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 52 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Per the CNN story, its certainly possible he had a mental break after failing to get a job in the forestry service and just decided to take it out on a couple of firefighters before offing himself.

Did his parents holding extremist political views and a fetish for firearms play a role in his actions? Would be more unbelievable if they didn't. But I don't think he'd have been better off with a couple of parents who were firmly in the Ted Cruz camp or disaffected Liz Cheney die-hards, either.

If I was to take a wild guess, I'd say this was the direct result of a kid who was out of high school, unemployed, with no real future on the horizon, who was terminally online in a community of (likely a large number of bot-accounts and trolls) telling him he's worthless and should just off himself.

A classic problem of "surplus males" that plague every militant reactionary society.

[–] fantacyde@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 23 hours ago

I appreciate this take on it. So easy to take jabs at the MAGA family but to take the time to really think on the more actual influences on this kid's actions, I think you did well.

[–] Starfarer@lemmy.today 22 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

Don't you think the guy looks like MAGA Paul Hollywood?

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[–] molten@lemmy.world 22 points 23 hours ago (3 children)

Remember: misinformation comes from both sides. Just because you like it doesn't mean you can skip fact checking.

[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 103 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

Simply using the term “both sides” is problematic, and not just because it’s a binary fallacy. There aren’t just two sides. It’s misrepresents a system in which there is one single, unified group that engages in violent, oppressive, lawless fascism… and then there is everyone else, covering a nearly infinite variety of ideologies and goals, and many of whom have no representation.

The phrase “both sides” as it is, itself, misinformation and propaganda.

[–] molten@lemmy.world 56 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

Let me clarify. I'm an imbecile who normally comments on porn and trash memes. I didn't put much thought into it besides "PSA: we're inclined to believe things that align with us! Make sure to check!" Because I gotta remind myself often because I believe most things I like. and think people also might appreciate being reminded. I just think too often in binary terms because (see above) I'm an idiot and it's all easier that way. But I'm always trying to grow and do better so I'll take your critique of my comment to heart.

I guess I'll try to phrase things less binarily in the future. Or keep it short. But thanks for keeping me on it.

[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 19 points 14 hours ago

God damn, this is an awesome level headed comment.

I like that you are BOTH right.

"Both sides" has definitely changed in meaning. Every time I read it I just assume it's some right wing dipshit trying to muddy the waters.

Your point is totally valid though, misinformation comes and can come from anywhere, especially online.

Keep up the good work both of you!

[–] AeonFelis@lemmy.world 3 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Is it misinformation this time though?

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 4 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

It is not. It is his mom and stepdad.

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[–] dulce_3t_decorum_3st@lemmy.world 6 points 12 hours ago

Damn. 👊🏼

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 4 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

I don't need to give MAGA the benefit of the doubt anymore.

They lost that privilege years and years ago.

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[–] guyoverthere123@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's people like those two that need their faces eaten by a leopard.

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[–] BigMacHole@sopuli.xyz 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Those MAGA Republicans look like DEMOCRATS!

[–] III@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Don't believe you lying eyes!

[–] motor_spirit@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

too bad this happened in the home of the Aryan Nation, it'll amount to thoughts and prayers

I truly hope firefighters nationwide make some noise against this shit with guns and mental health and press politicians to make changes via inaction during emergencies. this is absolutely fucking unacceptable and they should not ever fear additional life threatening forces while risking their lives and addressing crises

so fucking tired of psychos parading around their love of guns alongside their hatred. your god isn't fuckin real, your guns are not a "god given right"

[–] psycho_driver@lemmy.world 10 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

your god isn’t fuckin real, your guns are not a “god given right”

Jesus would be going temple pharisee rampage and shoving their guns up their asses

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[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 12 points 15 hours ago

Another one? I'm still reeling from the preacher murders.

[–] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 6 points 23 hours ago

We need your particular set of skills to kidnap and possibly deflate a giant orange balloon that people keep pretending is human.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmings.world 5 points 5 hours ago

They'll find out that he donated a dollar to a charity at the grocery store checkout when he was 12, so he's a Democrat.

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 5 points 5 hours ago

MAGA = American Taliban

In case anyone was still unsure.

[–] yucandu@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

These people are victims of targeted propaganda.

[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 1 day ago (1 children)

These people are willing consumers of targeted propaganda.

Ftfy

[–] yucandu@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (4 children)

By "propaganda" I mean lies and manipulation. By definition you can't consent to that.

[–] psycho_driver@lemmy.world 9 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

I think they probably have a dull little voice in the back of their head that they do their best to starve and keep locked in a little prison cell that tells them they shouldn't believe what they're seeing/hearing, and they ignore the voice and keep consuming Faux News etc.

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