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"I've been warned not to talk about it," the woman wrote, before revealing snippets of the day she says she was arrested for publishing gay erotica.

"I'll never forget it - being escorted to the car in full view, enduring the humiliation of stripping naked for examination in front of strangers, putting on a vest for photos, sitting in the chair, shaking with fear, my heart pounding."

The handle, Pingping Anan Yongfu, is among at least 8 in recent months which have shared accounts on Chinese social media platform Weibo of being arrested for publishing gay erotic fiction. As authors recounted their experiences, dozens of lawyers offered pro bono help.

At least 30 writers, nearly all of them women in their 20s, have been arrested across the country since February, a lawyer defending one told the BBC. Many are out on bail or awaiting trial, but some are still in custody. Another lawyer told the BBC that many more contributors were summoned for questioning.

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[–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 113 points 16 hours ago (3 children)

Ah yes, this is the democracy some people talk about

[–] blackbelt352@lemmy.world 48 points 15 hours ago

Authoritarians gonna authoritarian regardless of economic model.

[–] ObtuseDoorFrame@lemmy.zip 16 points 15 hours ago

You forgot to put quotes around democracy.

[–] ProvableGecko@lemmy.world 11 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (2 children)

Don't be silly, democracy is only when private companies do all encompassing AI powered surveillance.

If you’ve left a comment on a YouTube video, a new website claims it might be able to find every comment you’ve ever left on any video you’ve ever watched. Then an AI can build a profile of the commenter and guess where you live, what languages you speak, and what your politics might be.

According to the developer, they’ve provided the tool to cops in Portugal, Belgium, and “other countries in Europe.” They told 404 Media that the website is meant for private investigators, journalists, and cops. 

https://archive.md/buuA6

[–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 13 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Don't Chinese private mega corporations do this too?

[–] ProvableGecko@lemmy.world -5 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

Chinese corporations do only what government allows them to do, any more and the CEO "takes an extended vacation".

[–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 17 points 12 hours ago

Well yeah and the government really wants to pry into every aspect of your life. So you'll have the same shit

[–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 6 hours ago

Now we only need to find a source of how many lgbtq+ fiction writers have been arrested in those same countries and we can proceed with the comparison.

[–] oh_@lemmy.world 99 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

This will eventually be the U.S. if we don’t stop the erosion. Right now they are going after trans, brown people. They will turn attention after to others.

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 59 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

"The Chinese government wants to promote traditional family values and liking danmei novels is seen as a factor in making women less willing to have children," Dr Ge explains.

[–] Supervisor194@lemmy.world 31 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Man, it's wild to see them go from one-child to this in a single generation.

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 29 points 11 hours ago

Overcorrection in policy is not uncommon in authoritarian regimes. I'd imagine because policy carries the threat of imprisonment, not just guidance.

[–] kautau@lemmy.world 13 points 11 hours ago

The machine needs meat

[–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 16 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I generally want to have sex with my husband after reading erotica. You know, because it’s arousing. How did this not occur to them?

[–] QuoVadisHomines@sh.itjust.works 23 points 10 hours ago

How many straight men do you know who have a sound grasp on women’s sexuality?

[–] QuoVadisHomines@sh.itjust.works 59 points 11 hours ago (4 children)

But .ml communities promise meChina has mote free speech than the West! How is this possible?

/s

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 22 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Clearly, the BBC made it all up. Because it contradicts them. /s

Literally the newest top-level comment right now.

[–] PolydoreSmith@lemmy.world 6 points 6 hours ago (4 children)

You don’t even have to be charged with anything before ICE grabs you off the street at throws you in a van in the US…

[–] QuoVadisHomines@sh.itjust.works 16 points 6 hours ago

Which is true for China as well

[–] FuckFascism@lemmy.world 12 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Yes it's fucking horrible, I have the misfortune of living in the US but the same goes for China, North Korea, Russia and I could go on.

[–] Tryenjer@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Yeah, unfortunately the US is becoming more and more like China in this regard.

[–] napkin2020@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 hours ago

And I assume you wish the US to keep doing that because China is doing that and it's clearly working?

[–] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world -1 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (2 children)

Che Guevara, from Desalinas PFP, was also rather homophonic. I wouldn't make it a point of purity testing. People in the past did things according to their time (not saying its justified).

The .ml crew has enought to criticize today. Big part them being a different flavor of impiralism

[–] otp@sh.itjust.works 24 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Che Guevara, from Desalinas PFP, was also rather homophonic

Which other word did he sound like?

[–] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)
[–] thatsTheCatch@lemmy.nz 12 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

You accidentally said "homophonic" instead of "homophobic." A homophone is a word that is pronounced the same as another but with a different meaning, e.g. "weight" and "wait"

[–] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago

lol those were typos.

[–] QuoVadisHomines@sh.itjust.works 13 points 9 hours ago

This isn’t a purity test. This is me making fun of the tankies on .ml

[–] Zoomboingding@lemmy.world 58 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

These authors are being accused of breaking China's pornography law for "producing and distributing obscene material". Writers who earn a profit could be jailed for more than 10 years.

The law targets "explicit descriptions of gay sex or other sexual perversions".

Jesus I thought there might have been some bullshit pretense, but apparently it's just straight-up illegal there.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 6 hours ago

China is not the West, haha. There's a reason we're suspicious of them.

[–] Burnoutdv@feddit.org 32 points 16 hours ago (3 children)

I know nothing about Chinese child care, but reading that the government wishes for more child rearing, might it be that there are other systemic problems like no access to child care facilities, a culture that doesn't value women and people exhausted by long work days? I might have read that this is part of the root cause in korea. But sure, some gay novels might also be the reason for significant numbers. Overall the Chinese are somewhat known for pragmatic approaches, why chasing illusions in this case? The total number of readers and writers can't be that huge can't it?

[–] belastend@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 9 hours ago

This reflects a typical right wing approach to "increasing birthrates": Reinforcing """"traditional family values"""", vilifying defiance of gender norms and addressing anything but the root cause.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 11 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Overall the Chinese are somewhat known for pragmatic approaches, why chasing illusions in this case? The total number of readers and writers can't be that huge can't it?

Probably enlightened despotism giving way to regular despotism. Facing economic problems, and having shed all pretense of being socialist, the Chinese ruling class likely needs a scapegoat for the country's troubles.

[–] Burnoutdv@feddit.org 2 points 11 hours ago

Sounds plausible, crazy how that always works

[–] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 9 points 14 hours ago

Maybe still effects of the one-child-policy times. It's probably much easier to punish people for having too many children than it is to incentivise having more.

[–] boblemmy@lemmy.world 5 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

The background of the matter transcends conflicts over gender concepts. In recent years, many local governments have been unable to cover their expenses, resulting in a phenomenon known as "distant sea fishing" (远洋捕捞), which refers to "profit-driven law enforcement," aimed at plundering money from other places. These female writers are just a tiny fraction of the victims. There are also well-known entrepreneurs who have lost their lives due to such extortion.

[–] stepan@lemmy.ca -2 points 10 hours ago

Weird. I was told state atheism was the hallmark of human rights.