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TenForward: Where Every Vulcan Knows Your Name

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[–] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 15 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

85 (originally 86)[26] characters in the Cherokee syllabary provide a suitable method to write Cherokee

That’s fascinating! It’s a relatively new language, so I’m surprised it hasn’t changed more in the last 200 years.

[–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 9 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Only the syllabary is new not the language.

[–] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 3 points 19 hours ago

You know what I meant, but yes, you’re correct

[–] ArgentRaven@lemmy.world 7 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

There's definitely two different dialects now, from the Oklahoma Cherokee and North Carolina Cherokee. That's simply from the difference between the two. For instance, in the Cherokee Nation, we say "Osiyo" as a greeting, but the Eastern Band of Cherokee say "Siyo". It's still written the same way, but it's an interesting way to see language change in such a recent time (the trail of tears was 1831). Kind of like Spanish in Mexico vs Chile or Spain.

The language itself is very old (an Iroquoian language base), but the syllabary was created in 1821.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 3 points 17 hours ago

Thanks for that clarification. Osiyo is one of like five Cherokee words I think I know (at one point I thought I learned how to say "hi, I am speaking Cherokee" or something similar, but my "knowledge" came from the internet so I was never sure)

For some reason I thought you'd say Osiyo be then the other person would say Siyo and that's how you said hello. I wonder what language I'm confusing it with.

[–] clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works 10 points 23 hours ago (1 children)
[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 6 points 23 hours ago

No! It's super cool!

[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 9 points 20 hours ago (3 children)

someone done fucked up the transliteration system... or american english phonetics are really fucked.

[–] quediuspayu@lemmy.world 4 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

One can't write phonetically in a language that doesn't have phonetic rules.

[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 3 points 10 hours ago

this is like "atheism doesn't belong as an option in "religion" boxes for personal data"

you have a phonetic system, it being a pile of shit isn't the fault of other languages.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 3 points 17 hours ago

I don't blame folk for not knowing the international phonetic alphabet, even though this here is what it's for. I have trouble keeping track of all of my vowels

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 1 points 19 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 2 points 19 hours ago

puede ser, ingles es una mierda total

[–] data1701d@startrek.website 8 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Now the big question is how do you say, “Rampant cultural appropriation/misrepresentation is Star Trek: Voyager”? 🤣

[–] Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org 7 points 19 hours ago

I'm gonna bet on "Akoocheemoya".

[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 8 points 20 hours ago

That's pretty nice penmanship

[–] Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org 2 points 19 hours ago

In any language, LLAP.