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[–] Peppycito@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 week ago (5 children)

In Canada we call it STEAM now. Because where the hell do you think design comes from?

[–] BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz 0 points 1 week ago

GabeN I guess ?

[–] GandalftheBlack@feddit.org 0 points 1 week ago (2 children)

In Europe we have GOG instead
G - science technology engineering maths O - ond G - gumanities

[–] T156@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago (2 children)

G - gumanities

Or as we like to call it, GNU/Gumanities.

[–] Venus_Ziegenfalle@feddit.org 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Or, as I've taken to calling them, GNU plus Gumanities.

[–] Klear@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I do art, btw

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 week ago

GNU is not umanities.

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[–] BussyCat@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

So I’d that just all college degrees besides business?

[–] Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net 0 points 1 week ago

Yea. All the real collegiate degrees and the bullshit degree.

[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 week ago (4 children)

My subjective interpretation of STEM is "degrees you need to know calculus for". They're all math heavy, with precise answers. While the arts are certainly important, I just don't see how they fit that motif. What is this supposed to accomplish?

[–] ThatGuy46475@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You need calculus for vibe coding?

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

Vibe coding without any prior knowledge is just a catastrophe waiting to happen. Vibe coding with prior knowledge just makes you realize how dumb the AI is the moment you try anything else besides throwing a website together.

[–] DahGangalang@infosec.pub 0 points 1 week ago

I agree.

The more wild version I saw of STEAM had Agriculture as the A. I also felt that was redundant since modern agriculture involves a lot of science (biology) and engineering (equipment).

[–] Anomalocaris@lemm.ee 0 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I don't think I've had anything calculus related in my biology degree.

Guess biology isn't STEM then, sorry.

But I'm all seriousness, calculus (and by extension differential equations) is super common in bio. Reaction rates, stable population sizes, micro and macro. I'd be surprised if you never came across it.

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[–] halvar@lemy.lol 0 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I find fault in the reasoning, it's probably the bussiness majors that profited the most from any band ever by pocketing half of whatever money they made.

[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 0 points 1 week ago

So they are the root cause of all evil

[–] zqwzzle@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 week ago

They make more profit from monetizing water

[–] MrShankles@reddthat.com 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The business major... reaps no reward from art and science... thus must weaken us (Art/STEM) to stay ahead

The "fault in reasoning" you describe is saying the same thing: there's no reward from art and science for business majors, so they must instead gain from (Art/STEM) by weakening them. Capitalize on profit and extract reward from (Art/STEM), because business majors themselves, can't extract reward by means of the original process

*** This is not an endorsement of my own opinion. I'm talking out my ass and have no relevant sources to back my statement, nor stake in any claim. Just typing words off the dome and trying to sound coherent for possible discussive-hypotheticals

[–] CromulantCrow@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 week ago (5 children)

A thousand apologies for bringing Chat GPT into this assignment, but, well, I couldn't help myself.

In this essay I will explore how the artificial divide between Arts and STEM disciplines has been perpetuated, the consequences of this separation, and the immense potential that lies in their collaboration. Using the example of Queen—a band whose members’ diverse academic backgrounds fueled their creative genius—I will argue that the intersection of artistic imagination and scientific rigor is not only possible, but essential for innovation and progress. Furthermore, I will examine the role that societal structures, particularly those influenced by business interests, have played in maintaining this divide, and how overcoming it could empower individuals and communities alike.

First, let us consider the origins of this divide. Historically, the “Two Cultures” debate, popularized by C.P. Snow in the mid-20th century, framed the arts and sciences as fundamentally incompatible. This narrative has been reinforced by educational systems that require students to choose between creative and analytical paths early in their academic careers. As a result, students often internalize the belief that they must be either “artistic” or “scientific,” rarely both. This false dichotomy not only limits personal growth but also stifles the kind of interdisciplinary thinking that leads to groundbreaking achievements.

Queen’s story challenges this narrative. Brian May’s background in astrophysics, Roger Taylor’s training in dentistry, Freddie Mercury’s art school experience, and John Deacon’s expertise in electronics all contributed to the band’s unique sound and stage presence. Their music is a testament to the power of combining technical skill with artistic vision—an approach that has resonated with millions and stood the test of time.

But why does this divide persist? Here, I return to the business major, a metaphor for the systems and structures that benefit from keeping Arts and STEM apart. In a world where creativity and technical knowledge are siloed, those who control the means of production and distribution—often with business backgrounds—can more easily exploit both groups. By fostering competition rather than collaboration, they ensure that neither side realizes its full potential, maintaining the status quo and their own position of power.

The consequences of this separation are profound. When artists and scientists work in isolation, society misses out on innovations that require both creative insight and technical expertise. From medical breakthroughs inspired by artistic anatomy studies to technological advances driven by aesthetic design, history is full of examples where collaboration has led to extraordinary results.

In conclusion, the supposed rift between Arts and STEM is not a natural divide, but a constructed barrier that serves the interests of a select few. By recognizing our shared potential and fostering interdisciplinary collaboration, we can unlock new possibilities and create a more vibrant, innovative, and equitable society. Just as Queen’s members combined their diverse talents to create music that transcends genres, so too can we bridge the gap between art and science to achieve greatness together.

[–] CromulantCrow@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (7 children)

Replying to my own comment, I think the best tell that this is AI generated is the — character. There's not even a key on the keyboard for that. Alt-0151 (on the keypad) is the only way I know how to get it. Aside from that, I pity the teacher who has to grade this type of slop. But then, I guess grading high-school essays has never been a highlight of the job.

[–] lime@feddit.nu 0 points 1 week ago (2 children)

i think macos inserts those automatically if you do three dashes.

I’m sure word does the same.

[–] carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 week ago

its also on phone keyboards, at least on iphone, you can hold the dash key and select the long dash: —

same for the ellipsis, which a lot of people cite as a proof something was written with AI, but iphones (and other phones too, probably) insert them automatically when you type 3 dots…

[–] Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

There is a key for — on my phone. Just hold down the - key and it pops up as an option. I use it all the time.

[–] DahGangalang@infosec.pub 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

There is a key for — on my phone. Just hold down the - key and it pops up as an option — I use it all the time.

FTFY

[–] Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net 0 points 1 week ago

Bro caught me slippin'

[–] ToastedCoconuts@piefed.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

My organic chemistry professor spent a solid 30 minutes explaining the difference between an em dash and an en dash so we could use them correctly in our lab reports. Then ended his little lecture with saying "They're in the special character menu of your word processor. Unless you're on Mac, then I suggest googling them."

I don't think any of us used either dash, but I'm just sad no one called him on his BS lol

[–] kibiz0r@midwest.social 0 points 1 week ago

On a Mac, you can do opt+hyphen or shift+opt+hyphen, for en dash or em dash respectively.

[–] darklamer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 week ago

I think the best tell that this is AI generated is the — character. There's not even a key on the keyboard for that.

Then you must have a really crappy keyboard.

[–] ThoGot@feddit.org 0 points 1 week ago

My laptop can do the — when I press AltGr and -

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[–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Apology unaccepted. Have my dislike. Type — yourself next time.

/sarcasm

[–] blindsight@beehaw.org 0 points 1 week ago

ngl, that's a pretty good persuasive essay. Since the OP gave the prompt, it also took creative risks with an essay topic that is original, and doesn't just parrot the consensus opinion on a well-trodden topic.

I'd give this a really good grade up to grade 11.

[–] MBM@lemmings.world 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Somehow it feels like this whole essay could be summarized in a single paragraph of, say, 3 proper sentences

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[–] elevenbones@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 week ago

I've been waiting 12 years for this fuggin essay

[–] plyth@feddit.org 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

So, how can society overcome the rift?

[–] qarbone@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Destroy business. Cast it back into the hellfires from which it came.

[–] plyth@feddit.org 0 points 1 week ago (3 children)

How do you organize society then?

[–] fossilesque@mander.xyz 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Do you need a middle man with every transaction?

[–] plyth@feddit.org 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Nor every, but how do you handle the transactions to design, build and operate a mobile phone?

[–] fossilesque@mander.xyz 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Does an engineer need an intermediary between them and the designer?

[–] plyth@feddit.org 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

No.

But that doesn't scale. How should society organize for mobile phones?

[–] fossilesque@mander.xyz 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Do we need multi international corporations that rival empires? There's a lot of options to address scale depending on choices we make, the communists say central planning is the answer, some anarchists say syndicates can fix this. You could create circular economies that return ewaste to the fold then redistribute the new product. There's a lot more options than you think.

[–] qarbone@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

Business does not equate logistics.

Edit: business leverages many useful fields ,like logistics, actuary/risk assessment, and public relations, to do one, very useless task: generate profit.

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[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I fully agree. But once those who should be business majors enter a field everything about it gets worse.

A slightly nicer way to put this is profit incentives frequently cause negative externalities.

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 0 points 1 week ago

Splash in finance and you get Offspring

[–] damdy@lemm.ee 0 points 1 week ago

I went to a London university. Most the departments were essentially as diverse as the population, but business undergrads were 80% black British, and everyone knows they hate queen. Is this the conspiracy we've been warned about?

(This is very clearly a joke I hope and I have utter respect for everyone.)

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Throw marketing and HR majors in there with business majors as the triumvirate of just literally evil and useless people, and I'm on board.

I say this as a person with an Econ degree, and another Poli Sci degree, that I got simultaneously.

We are not all evil, in fact most of us fucking despise business majors, as business is what you switch your Econ major to if you're too stupid to actually understand advanced math, modelling, statistical analysis, as well as actual long term business strategy, and usually at least some coding proficiency in something like R or at least Python libs geared toward data crunching.

But somehow these idiot assholes end up being our bosses and we usually end up being their subordinate data analysts of some kind, basically because they master the arcane power of corpospeak, aka, professional gaslighting.

Likewise, accountants, actuaries?

Those are actual real degrees, you have to memorize an utterly astounding amount of essentially arbitrary laws and regulations, and if you go full actuary, some of the most complex statistics on earth, in some cases literally more complex and mind bending than what many theoretical physicists have to learn.

Anyway, most data oriented nerds are at least mildly autistic and realize they are generally not so good with people skills, nor the visually artistic kind of creativity... but we are generally self-aware of this, and realize that other people with other kinds of intelligences are needed if we want our data and analysis to actually be listened to.

Finally: HR and Marketing majors are all narcissistic sociopaths who are also too stupid to complete their psychology degrees, which they really only ever pursued to become more skilled sociopaths.

... Uh there, oops, I may have just written at least part of OP's essay.

EDIT: Ok, apparently this may be worth clarifying due to the presence of some ChatGPT diarrhea in this thread, but uh, the above words were all produced spontaneously by an all natural, organic, genuine human being, in an astoundingly more energy efficient and non exploitative manner, that didn't require to violate the privacy, consent, and also basically IP rights of every human that has ever existed.

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