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I never imagined the original post would go so viral and be seen by +6M people. But I guess it shows there’s real momentum — and the perfect time to finally escape big tech’s grip.

I went through hundreds of reposts of the image and took in feedback from community comments. I’ve replaced USA-centralized apps like Brave and Bluesky with more open alternatives, and added self-hosting indicators.

As many of you recommended, I’ve also created an online version with descriptions that we can constantly update and improve.

Drop a comment if you have suggestions for a better alternative, improved description, or a feature for the site. Let's break free together!

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[–] absquatulate@lemmy.world 31 points 4 days ago (2 children)

As with all impromptu lists, this one is pretty flawed. For example, as much as I love it, lineageOS is not useful for "digital independence" in any meaningful sense, since it's just a more cleaned up version of android. Or PeerTube, which can't really be considered a realistic alternative to yt. It's fine in itself, but it's so small and so hard to scale that you might just be better off giving up the yt format altogether. And then there's Thunderbird. I love it but it's a CLIENT, you'll still need a mail provider.

[–] psud@aussie.zone 4 points 3 days ago (2 children)

LineageOS is worse than that. You can't have it and also have local security as you cannot lock your phone bootloader with an unsigned image. You can't protect yourself from anyone with physical access to the phone.

[–] jnod4@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

So the moment you get lineage anyone with physical access can install bootloader things in your phone? Eg cerberus?

[–] psud@aussie.zone 3 points 3 days ago

Can install any software

[–] rippersnapper@lemm.ee 1 points 3 days ago

Not to mention the fact that a bunch of banking apps won’t work on LineageOS. You can try magisk as a workaround for some, but others just won’t.

[–] Kajika@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 days ago

If you search about it you can lock your bootloader with LineageOS.

[–] Libb@jlai.lu 18 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (4 children)

LibreWolf is not an alternative to chrome, it's a fork of FF. It won't run Chrome extensions... which chrome users would likely expect to be able to run.

For a Chrome alternative, I use Vivaldi (which is based in the EU)
As a Firefox alternative, I use Waterfox

[–] dunidane@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

What separates waterfox from firefox or librewolf?

[–] Forester@pawb.social 7 points 4 days ago

Different Dev teams

[–] swelter_spark@reddthat.com 4 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Any browser is an alternative to any other browser, IMO. They all have the same purpose.

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[–] blind3rdeye@lemm.ee 4 points 2 days ago

LibreWolf is listed as an alternative web browser; not an alternative way to run Chrome extensions.

Similarly, listing Mint as an alternative to Windows is about having an alternative computer OS. It is not about having an alternative way to run your Windows apps.

And Lemmy is an alternative 'ranked forum' (or whatever you want to call this). It is not an alternative way to read reddit threads.

[–] MITM0@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Firefox is always & will be an alternative to chrome

[–] Libb@jlai.lu 2 points 2 days ago

As far as I'm concerned, it's the other way around. FF was there first ;)

[–] lath@lemmy.world 18 points 4 days ago (1 children)

It's a start, but the goal should be to have multiple options. Any monopoly can either be bought or abused and we should work towards making those as hard as possible.

[–] lmuel@sopuli.xyz 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

While I’d generally agree, I don’t think fediverse platforms having a monopoly is as dangerous.

Social media requires a sort of monopoly to work well, I think federation is a good approach here.

[–] lath@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

Perhaps. It's still early to tell.

[–] asdfasdfasdf@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago (3 children)

IMO Gmail -> Thunderbird is a bit flawed since you'd still need a service provider. It could be Thunderbird + Posteo / others (please no ProtonMail).

[–] bobotom4444@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

What is wrong with Protonmail?

[–] easily3667@lemmus.org 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] Mailloche@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 days ago (6 children)
[–] MITM0@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Let me give you a more precise info; The CEO is a Trump supporter & the Compsny doubled-down

Of course it didn't impact the product, but still why would Trump "Stand up for the little guys"

[–] easily3667@lemmus.org 2 points 2 days ago

My answer was precise, yours just added fluff.

Trump is a Nazi and proton did express support. Therefore they support nazis. This isn't complex math.

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[–] pimento64@sopuli.xyz 12 points 4 days ago

Droidify is just a bloated wrapper for F-Droid

[–] Chakravanti@monero.town 11 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)
  • Session
  • Signal
  • GPG2
  • VLC
  • Tuta
  • OpenKeychain
  • KeePassXC
  • NetGuard
  • Mullvad
  • Ironfox
  • BLE Radar
  • Transmission
  • Obfuscate
  • Monero/Haveno
[–] rippersnapper@lemm.ee 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I mean WhatsApp is already E2E encrypted. Meta doesn’t make money off WhatsApp (only WhatsApp business). Any IM service that’s big in MAU (monthly active users) costs big money in server traffic. Me using WhatsApp costs Zuck money. In return the only data he can sell is about my metadata (i.e. how often I contact someone etc). For normal usage I think WhatsApp is more than ok. However if you’re worried about govt snooping cuz you’re a journalist or some such then yeah, switch to Session.

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[–] paraphrand@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I don’t think piracy is a proper alternative to paying for commercial content.

Free content is.

So it shouldn’t be on this chart IMO. It’s a separate topic. It’s not a good look to lump piracy in with open/free software ideology.

[–] Kajika@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 days ago

There's no piracy as alternative in the list.

[–] BlastboomStrice@mander.xyz 6 points 3 days ago

Hello, very nice guide:)

I'd just like to bring to your attention, a very thorough comparison of messengers you might want to check😄

https://eylenburg.github.io/im_comparison.htm

[–] magnetichuman@fedia.io 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Where can I find the best Android alternative for my old-ass devices that don't support Lineage OS?

[–] MajorHavoc@programming.dev 4 points 4 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

For most of those devices, it depends what your goals are, but many privacy minded folks consider them unsalvageable.

If you can root the device, you could install the latest compatible version of the Android Open Source Project, and then use your newfound root powers to disable components you don't want, to the extent that the older versions of Android support doing so.

Technically, that's all LineageOS is doing for you. So if you're willing to put the effort in, the device can be salvaged. For most of us, it makes more sense to get a newer device, researching what OS-es are supported.

[–] MischievousGT@feddit.org 3 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Last time I used thunderbird was many years ago, like 10 years or so. Can you create a mail adress there? How does it compare to other providers like Tuta, Proton, Posteo and others?

[–] Libb@jlai.lu 9 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

It's an email client, not an email provider. It can be used to receive/send emails from almost any provider, not to create new ones.

[–] CannedTuna@sh.itjust.works 9 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, as Thunderbird is just a mail client, and not a provider, it’s not really an “alternative”. It should list StartMail, Mailbox.org, Tutanota, etc. Since people are used to using web clients for emails, I don’t think suggesting a desktop app that still requires an provider is necessary, just creates confusion.

[–] Libb@jlai.lu 3 points 4 days ago

Yes, there are quite a few approximations in the list ;)

in the EU/Western Europe, as an e mail provider I would suggest in no order: maibox.org, proton, tuta and owning your own domain but that one last option (teh best one, imho) may already be too technical for most users.

[–] DaGeek247@fedia.io 5 points 4 days ago

Yeah, I saw that one pretty quick and wondered why they did that. Mailbox.org is a better option than just putting 'thunderbird'.

[–] calisti@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 3 days ago

OpenSUSE Linux from Nuremberg!

[–] inamorta345@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Total noob here, can stremio be used to escape big tech legally?

[–] snail_stampede@midwest.social 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Not really, but big tech breaks the laws all the time so why shouldn't you?

[–] inamorta345@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It's not a moral thing, I just don't have the luxury of evading the law like big tech

[–] snail_stampede@midwest.social 1 points 3 days ago

VPNs make it easy and affordable but yeah, if the juice isn't worth the squeeze for you that's understandable. There is a bit of setup/maintenance as well that can get sort of complicated.

[–] Allero@lemmy.today 2 points 2 days ago (6 children)

Nice, but highlighting a particular Linux distro might not be great. I see the point in minimizing amount of choices, but many people may not like default Mint experience.

[–] DreasNil@feddit.nu 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I agree. At least suggest both Mint and Ubuntu. I recently started using Linux just a couple of weeks ago. Started with Mint and I hated it! Then I moved on to Ubuntu and it’s way better for my taste.

[–] Allero@lemmy.today 2 points 2 days ago

For me it was Manjaro that helped me switch over, and now I'm on Fedora. Didn't like Mint either.

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[–] Routhinator@startrek.website 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Its a bit odd to suggest Nextcloud for Google Drive but then leave it off the replacement list for photos and Docs. Use the Memories App in Nextcloud ans add Collabora and you have those features in Nextcloud too. News app = Google Reader, RePod+AntennaPod = Google Podcasts, Nextcloud Talk instead of Google Meet and Zoom. (just add cloud hosted stun/tun server for performance video chat when hosting from home.)

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