I've met German (and French) women in Australia who've openly said they've got a Muslim men problem. e: I was somewhat shocked to hear it as an Aussie. We were all at a party round a fire and they all started comparing stories of hassles they got back home.
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As in, Muslim men behaving badly towards them?
What are you trying to say here?
Germany took in a ton of refugees (migrants is the wrong word), some percentage of which have has extreme trouble moving into a very different culture, it was a huge culture shock for everyone and it had led to problems inside the country that are fueling this hatred.
Not fucking rocket science.
I think everyone saw issues will happen 10 years ago, when Germany took excessive amount of refugees. Though on the one hand, way before the migration crisis, Europe had been criticised for not taking in both migrants and refugees, many of whom died being denied entry. You can never please both sides when it comes to migration.
Thanks, this doesn’t explain why OP is sharing that anecdote and I still don’t know what they’re trying to say with it.
Are they saying Germans hate Muslims? Are they saying hating Muslims is justified?
Neither, they're giving an anecdotal example of the effects of what I previously noted.
Yeah that’s trivial to mention. I still care about why they shared the anecdote and you can repeat the obvious as much as you want but it won’t answer my question.
I mean you said it yourself, answer is obvious. Peace!
Not what I said, bye.
You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink.
So make us drink water, say what you wanna say
They're so paranoid about any hint of repeating what they did to the Jews that they're gonna accidentally do it to Muslims this time instead.
Yes or maybe the reason is the far right rising like everywhere else in the west. Not everything related to Germany has to do with the holocaust.
The reason Islamophobia is rising in Germany is that Germany aggressively censors anything critical of Israel because it incorrectly conflates it with antisemitism, which means it's implicitly endorsing Israel's genocide of Muslims. Of course Islamophobia is going to increase when it's effectively supported by the state!
A large part of islamophobes are also antisemitic.
And both groups suffer. Too bad one is prosecuted more than the other; that imbalance worsens the problem.
just like in every other european country, there were almost no steps towards integration. this is what you get.
Here in Denmark the right wing faught hard to make sure no actual integration would happen. Now they point at the badly integrated immigrants and say "look, they're not even interested in being integrated".
We have laws that prevent immigrants from getting jobs, and a language course that isn't mandetory. These laws are in place because of the right wing party "Danish Peoples Party" didn't want immigrants to be able to succeed.
How are people supposed to be integrated when they can't meet the people they need to integrate with?
When we got a shitload of ukrainians, the law preventing them from working was abolished, but only for ukrainian refugee. Guess what? The ukrainians are integrating amasingly. Turns out, if you get to socialise with people, you're more likely to learn how to behave around those people.
Yep, history repeats itself again. Netherlands and Germany imported a ton of laborers from North Africa and Turkey after WW2. But they literally only let the equivalent of redneck hillbillies in, since they were cheaper than educated urbanites. Germany and Netherlands needed cheap labor to rebuild after the war, but they wanted the cheapest of the cheapest. So most of them were illiterate subsistence farmers. And everyone thought that they would go back home after a few years so no efforts were made to integrate these people. And even if they tried they failed since these people weren’t very smart. Like seriously I’ve seen people who live here in Europe for longer than they lived in their country of birth and still can’t string a proper sentence together in the language of the country they live in. Not to mention most are religiously conservative and conservatives are not known to be openminded which makes it hard to integrate them.
Lo and behold two generations later the descendants of these migrants are overrepresented in the jobless, school dropout and crime stats.
And even if they tried they failed since these people weren’t very smart. Like seriously I’ve seen people who live here in Europe for longer than they lived in their country of birth and still can’t string a proper sentence together in the language of the country they live in.
Ah yes only the very intelligent can learn to speak our sophisticated language.
This is such a incredibly stupid and hypocritical accusation, since like you correctly spelled out before they weren't given many opportunities to do so. Since they were poor most had/have difficulties learning a language while also working construction, where most their coworkers aren't german speakers either and housing costs force them to live in areas where they don't have much cause/opportunity to bother with other germans. This is unlike most of the germans living in Turkey who dont bother to learn turkish out of sheer laziness.
I had a friend who came here speaking turkish and arabic and learned farsi, urdu and kurmanci before german because thats the people he had contact with. On the other side I have lived in Turkey as a german and a lot of the other europeans there did not bother to integrate at all, but chose to live in gated, self-segregated communities where they had as little turkish culture as possible.
This is what happens when you make your Staatsräson "never again to those people in particular" as opposed to "never again to anyone ever", then spend two years pretending that anti-Semitism is an imported problem, and end up saying that an illegal war by a genocidal apartheid state is your own dirty business.
Merz keeps telling lies it is imported. Not true.
https://jewishcurrents.org/bad-memory-2
“How could a society turn so fanatical?” a group member named Nazmiye later recalled thinking. “We began to ask ourselves if they could do such a thing to us as well . . . whether we would find ourselves in the same position as the Jews.” But when they expressed this fear on a church visit organized by the program, their German hosts became apoplectic. “They told us to go back to our countries if this is how we think,” Nazmiye said. The session was abruptly ended and the women were asked to leave.
I feel like this might be happening in every country that accepts/got a lot of foreigners. It doesn't matter what your religion or skin color is. Japanese people constantly complain about westerners as an example.
If you left your own country, there is a high chance you left it because you, unlike others, failed to be succesful, which statistically already puts you in the risk category.
Where I'm from, we're mostly complaining about too many Russians in the country
For Germany, yeah, that's people from different continent with a strong, vastly different religion
Is there an actual article about this or only a summary? Like what's considered a verbal attack? A breakdown between physical attacks seems like important information. Did they only start gathering this information in 2023 or is there more historical data to compare it to for context?