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[–] cyborganism@piefed.ca 6 points 14 hours ago (1 children)
[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca -1 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

No

It's governments allowing this shit.

Communist dictatorships will just as happily invest in fossil fuels if the deal leader wants that

This has nothing to do with capitalism

[–] cyborganism@piefed.ca 0 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

We don't know that. There has never been a true communist country. And the few that are the closest to being communists have all struggled due to sanctions that have cut them from doing any resource exchange and led them to poverty, and leaving them to work with what they have, or what they can put their hands on.

And while I'm no fan of China, at least they've put the work to reduce their carbon footprint by planting a fuck ton of trees and build public mass transit across their country, and become the leaders in electric vehicle manufacturing. Now they just need to change how they produce electricity to something greener.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 0 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

No true Scotsman? Really?

There are also never has been a real capitalist country.

There hasn't been a true communist country because it can't be done while keeping people free. What happens to those that don't want to join, I hear you wonder? Maybe ask Russia and China about that. Maybe look up "the chekist"? Or maybe look up "Mass killings under communist regimes" on wikipedia?

All communist countries have been communist countries. They were countries with what communism is in the real world. That theoretic theater play where you call each other comrade is kids playing. Real communism is built with blood.

[–] cyborganism@piefed.ca 1 points 47 minutes ago

That doesn't change the fact that capitalism, right now, is the main cause of global warming, of the plague that are plastics, the cause of overexploitation of resources, of world hunger and human misery.

While you claim that people under communism have suffered, it only lasted during a short historical period. And if you look over time how much suffering and destruction that capitalism has caused globally, it completely dwarfs what happened in communist dictatorships.

My whole point was that under capitalism, if something makes a profit, even killing poeple or the destruction of an entire planet, they'll do it. Just look at how the US is selling weapons. Just look at how they're tearing apart environmental protection laws. Look at how the top richest people in this world are only just 1%, yet contribute to the majority of carbon emissions ans trash.

Brother, stop with the communist whataboutism.