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[–] crumbguzzler5000@feddit.org 48 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The article makes a great point that there are just too many coincidences in all of this, the theories behind the tech also seem quite sound.

The flipping of swing states on election day but not flipping enough to trigger a recount, so suspicious how a criminal president could be so popular. Especially when many people knew what was at stake, project 2025 had been vocalized a lot.

[–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 17 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I think a big part of the whole picture could also be why in gods name did the Democrats concede before the day even ended?

[–] PancakesCantKillMe@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

My mind went right to the DNC leaders being complicit. Maybe they were shown a window or pictures of their children or they are just shitty people.

[–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Yeah i don't know. But they sure went back to thier mansions real quick and stayed out of the picture.

[–] ddash@lemmy.dbzer0.com 46 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 26 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, I don't see what they're hoping to accomplish with this. The pool has been poisoned for years by baseless claims from the far right about election rigging. No amount of evidence is going to change those peoples' minds, and for the others, you're preaching to the choir.

[–] AntiBullyRanger@ani.social 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Even from a legal standpoint, Trump won the election. Good luck uncertifying electoral reviews⸮

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

E-voting across the US has been a continuous attack vector of covert election fraud for over 2 decades, and in all that time nothing was done to harden them to any legitimate degree.

The oligarchy wanted Trump, and they've been subverting democracy longer than all of us have been alive. The SC was already used to steal the presidential election for Bush ffs.

[–] AntiBullyRanger@ani.social 3 points 1 day ago

That's not something you will ever solve on FPtPVoting anyways🤷‍♀️

[–] PunnyName@lemmy.world 31 points 2 days ago (2 children)

With the Dominion voting lawsuit in place as precedent, whomever is gonna make these election claims better have an airtight fucking defense.

[–] Kowowow@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 day ago

It would almost be suspicious if they didn't sue with such a big case to back them up

[–] urno@lemmy.world 28 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Momentum is building on this one.

Either people looking into this are going to be “discouraged” or more evidence will be examined and a consensus will arrive.

Not saying which way. IMO the rhetoric of Trump prior to the election was basically a confession and I’ve no doubt the election was interfered with. Without any evidence, that is :|

[–] Chakravanti@monero.town 12 points 2 days ago

That wasn't confession, 53min into that "inauguration" speech, that was bragging.

[–] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

These kind of conspiracy theories downplay how much of a piece of shit Nation we have become and how selfish the populace voted.

[–] Chakravanti@monero.town 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

These aren't theories. Trump said, in his inauguration speech at 53min in, that a non-citizen did that just for him and "rigged the election." He says that he would KNOT have won but that he get the role anyways.

Of course his first task is to clip the buyout on the last check of court in his last time in place. Since then, butchering anything and everything in the "governing" and started the Auction to hand out all parts we built and ruled to...Billionaires? He is pending every USD to show how worthless it is now that it has no real guarentee left since they shot the one guy trying to validate it with Gold the way we used to.

That was Russia? Totally not the CIA.

Doesn't matter now. Everyone is tricked to think the "example" (defenition via the first public "anon" written description) is the real deal despite showing everything, what it does, where, from, to, amount, etc. into a log that will never end.

It is the Snitchcoin. Force corporations to use it so that we can tax the collection of thieves pretending to be human.

Don't take my obvious source be accepted as the REAL trustable means. Do your research. Understand how the open source works. Then you don't need my word. You will understand why Monero was kicked out of nearly every gamble box of loss used to carry pretendables like Zcash, etc.

Meh...do whatever. I ain't telling you what to do like they ate during this pig bank gluttony.

[–] 418_im_a_teapot@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 day ago (3 children)
[–] SL3wvmnas@discuss.tchncs.de 22 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I agree. While the main article is goes deep into obscure (albeit interesting) machinations, your article is very on point. It starts with

if you’re expecting a sexy story about Elon Musk messing with vote-counting software from outer space, sorry, you won’t get that here.

And then lays down the numbers:

— 4,776,706 voters were wrongly purged from voter rolls according to US Elections Assistance Commission data.

— By August of 2024, for the first time since 1946, self-proclaimed “vigilante” voter-fraud hunters challenged the rights of 317,886 voters. The NAACP of Georgia estimates that by Election Day, the challenges exceeded 200,000 in Georgia alone.

— No fewer than 2,121,000 mail-in ballots were disqualified for minor clerical errors (e.g. postage due).

— At least 585,000 ballots cast in-precinct were also disqualified.

— 1,216,000 “provisional” ballots were rejected, not counted.

— 3.24 million new registrations were rejected or not entered on the rolls in time to vote.

It continues listing concrete things people can directly influence. I liked the article, thank you soo much. Very insightful.

[–] Jason2357@lemmy.ca 6 points 18 hours ago

That argument is straightforward and clear and should be spread more widely than it is.

[–] psivchaz@reddthat.com 2 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

The numbers feel too coincidental and so a theory like space-based voting machine fraud doesn't seem as outlandish as it should. At the same time, it attributes to these people a level of finesse and planning that I just don't see from them.

The brute force "suppress votes and lie constantly" is much more Trump's style. It's basically his whole brand.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 1 points 4 hours ago

Hitler was a moron, that doesn't mean the Nazis didn't have any clever engineers.

[–] deaf_fish@midwest.social 5 points 1 day ago

It was weak and impotent when the Republicans did it. So I guess the Democrats feel left out.

[–] Randomgal@lemmy.ca 4 points 15 hours ago (3 children)

How is this relevant? Not only you have a king now, but he wasn't elected by popular vote anyways, he was elected by the electoral college, who aren't bound to follow the popular vote.

[–] match@pawb.social 3 points 14 hours ago

The relevance is that when he is overthrown, the history books will have more justifications as to why

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 2 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Y'all say these things sometimes that make one think you just wander around in a nihilistic haze of submission and defeatism.

[–] Chakravanti@monero.town 0 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

No. He wasn't. Computer cracker rewrote the software that the computers followed with blatant lies.

Event that shit that you think counts otherwise, is not in any relevancy upon any "if" to any result that was a product of a completely fucking obvious fraud.

You either know you're a CIA asset, or you think you got some gorram nonsense lack of logic denial of what is not difficult to see if you stop picking up other people's literal shit, wiping it on your face with open eyes, and think that that thing that you keep mentioning is anything other than a trick you chose to accept in exchange for what they told you life was and you didn't ask any real questions or even bother to decode the not-paper or read any of the books explaining everything about what that means.

They erased the gold relevancy and waited another full gen before people forgot how real life worked before they accepted the sigil and let go what life is.

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

There were a few offhand things Trump said before the election that sure sounded like he was letting slip that the election was rigged - but at the time I chalked them up to his usual overconfident bullshit. Some guy made a video a few months ago highlighting some of the statistical anomalies shown in the article. I thought he made a very persuasive case for vote manipulation but lacked technical evidence. Now that's coming out as well. I sure hope this plays out like it should. All it takes is one senator to formally challenge the legitimacy of the election and start an investigation.

[–] StarlightDust@lemmy.blahaj.zone -3 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Substack hosts Nazis. I'm not clicking that link

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You know there's fascist instances on fediverse, right?

[–] StarlightDust@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 19 hours ago

One of the great things of federation is that those instances get blocked by these great people called mods and admins. Substack doesn't do that.

[–] tisktisk@piefed.social -5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Here's to hoping this comments' downvotes get an explanation or I'm assuming they're just coming from nazis without a dignified retort \_ (ツ)_/¯

[–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Logic dictates it's a dumb thing to post, nazis likely use every site in existence, good luck never using a service that they also use.

Just because a shitty group of people use a product, doesn't necessarily mean the product itself is the problem, additionally in this case it's specifically being used for a good purpose.

Imagine if you will, a product the can cure horses of parasitic worms, but idiots use it to try and cure themselves of a disease we have an actual cure for, and someone comes along and says hey I used this stuff to cure my horse and this guy comes in and says, "Well actually, people used that product improperly so actually it's bad."

People boo them, and you say, "man all these people sure love taking this product improperly"

[–] tisktisk@piefed.social -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I hope your 'logic' also dictates a difference between using a product and (condoning) publishing/monetizing pro-nazi content. Hopefully most can see how one is a potential issue at the least. I know we all gotta eat tho--and to that end I don't wish to throw shade unnecessarily.

[–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 0 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Mien Kampf was written on paper, we shouldn't use paper.

[–] tisktisk@piefed.social 2 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Ah yes great point getting to the core of my post by using false analogies, red herrings and appeals to ridicule

Your logic dictates strange paths to truth friend.

[–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 1 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I'm specifically pointing out that's the logic being applied by the original response, which I made more clear with my example

[–] tisktisk@piefed.social 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I understand what you think you're pointing out (I was also hoping you were familiar with the fallacies I listed so you could maybe refine your position).

I still believe platforms like Substack have a responsibility to try to avoid enabling harmful (such as nazi) ideologies. Do you think you could spell out a logic for why I shouldn't hold this belief? Preferably without unrelated analogies that distract from a simple coherent argument if possible

[–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 0 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

See if you weren't being an antagonistic ass the whole time I'd put forth the time and effort to give a response, but you just want to be a dick every other sentence so why bother?

[–] tisktisk@piefed.social 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

That's a lot of effort to say no, isn't it? lol Feel free to point out where specifically I was 'being an antagonistic ass' so that I may better myself and others.

I completely respect you if you find that inconvenience not worth bothering with either. I wish only peace for you and your loved ones chief!

[–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

The thing is, I like having conversations with people in good faith, I've learned a lot that way, however to your question.

I understand what you think you're pointing out

Do you think you could spell out a logic for why I shouldn't hold this belief?

Preferably without unrelated analogies that distract from a simple coherent argument if possible

These three statements are clearly antagonistic and not seemingly in any form of good faith discussion so, I could reasonably expect similar fun with any further discussion.

I didn't say you should believe anything, I merely pointed out that the initial statement doesnt add to the conversation and people of course downvoted it. And then explained why the response of "anyone who would downvoted this is just a nazi" is a dumb thing to say lol.

[–] tisktisk@piefed.social 1 points 3 hours ago

I'm sorry you feel this way. I thought logic was at the core of what was being conversed so I didn't bother much with appeasing to emotional sensitivities--especially when you opened with 'logic dictates' then proceeded to make one of the most blatantly fallacious pseudo-arguments I've ever come across.

Then again you're also doing a lot of bothering to not be bothered with my simple (yet antagonistic) questions as well, so perhaps there's something to be said about such a state of consistent inner-conflict. I'm obsessed with how people ignore their own faults you could say. Thank you for the help comrade

[–] StarlightDust@lemmy.blahaj.zone -4 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Omg are you trapped in 2015? Starting a reply with "logic dictates" is so gamergate coded. Learn some basic philosophy before saying stuff like that because it demonstrates you have no idea what objectivity or subjectivity are.

[–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 3 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Ah yes great point getting to the core of my post by saying it's gamer gate coded and ignoring the logic in my metaphor.

[–] StarlightDust@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

You like the word logic a bit much for someone who doesn't know what it means. You a podcast listener?

[–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 1 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Just take the L and move on, it's not that big of a deal

[–] StarlightDust@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

You're devaluing the power of the word by misapplying it to anyone who you feel has slighted you.

The funny thing is, I took a gander at your post history, and we agree on a lot, but this one thing to you makes me a nazi apologist.

[–] StarlightDust@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

You support platforming Nazis therefore you are a Nazi apologist.

[–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 hours ago

To be clear, my point is that your pointless comment on a post about election fraud was posted on SUBSTACK. Out of this, the most important thing to you is the platform the information is provided from, because the platform has nazis on it. Which again, is an unfortunate reality in the world we live in, I'd equally love to have a place where people aren't driven to insane extremist beliefs and infect other people with their hate and vitriol, but that's not the world we live in. So maybe you should use your energy on something more productive?