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Parrot and the word "No" (lemmy.world)
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[–] Death_Equity@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Their linguistic prowess is limited but hilarious.

My bird knows probably a dozen or more human vocalizations and their rough usage. He has maracas that he likes to fiddle with and sometimes he will tap it against his head, which makes it rattle, and he will say "stahp eht"(stop it). He has a hatred of things that rattle or jingle and he loves to destroy things to make them stop. He is trying to tell the maracas to stop making noise that he causes. He will approach a toy that rattles and will say "stahp eht", and then pick it up or knock it about as if telling it to not make noise will make it not make noise; entirely absent is the concept that he is causing it to make noise.

It is quite funny to be told by a 63g bird to "shaddap" when the TV is too loud for him to sleep in his covered cage at night.

I do wish he would use "bed tyme" more appropriately for when he wants to be put to bed and not just whenever he wants to take one of his 6-10 naps a day. Close enough for an Amazonian Hitler pigeon with a final solution to the rattle and jingle question, I guess.

[–] dontpanic@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I would like to subscribe to additional funny pigeon anecdotes

[–] dave@feddit.uk 1 points 10 months ago

This is a few years old, but I loved this one from London.

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[–] ickplant@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

That is so adorable, I want to hear him say "stahp eht" so badly, lol.

[–] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

IMO, this is one of the better arguments for parrots having some of the most human-like intelligence in the animal world outside of primates. Having had both toddlers and parrots, they do exhibit a lot of similarities in behavior patterns, and I could swear my kids have done exactly what this person describes their bird doing.

[–] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Some of the people who study Dolphins think that they might actually have a language that can be learned.

[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago

It doesn't seem to be a "might" but a "probably definitely". Couldn't find the link right now but one of the few actually uses of AI that I've seen was to map out animal languages (specifically dolphins and other cetaceans) to develop a translator, Something something if you throw different (human) languages at a space and then dimension reduce it you get quite similar structures even though the languages are vastly different on the surface, and things like dolphins apparently aren't that far off and definitely not less complex.

Or, put differently: Yes, they're actually building a universal translator based on the assumption that because language-capable beings end up speaking roughly similar things you get structural overlaps if you have a sufficiently abstract representation of language (such as a neural net that learned to distinguish it from other stuff).

Aside from that it's been known for a longer time that dolphins are capable of relating complex information to another, e.g. you put one in one pool, the other in another, they can hear but not see another, and they can coordinate pressing buttons in one pool to get at fish in the other.

Also dolphins can recognise that a human gal is afraid of their teeth, disarm themselves with a tennis ball, and thus succeed in their task to get a handjob. That was part of Lilly's programme to teach dolphins English (they really struggle with consonants) which is a book honestly everyone should have read. Don't ask me which book in particular involves an injured dolphin co-habituating with the experimenter (aforementioned gal).