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Lemmy's design is focused on quality content by ditching the Karma farmers and addicts. No more chasing upvotes—people here actually focus on real value instead of feeding the ego.

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[–] rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee 5 points 44 minutes ago

Give it another year or two and we'll have some website that tallies the karma of lemmy users. Clout is an insidious disease that grows like a social cancer.

[–] Emmie@lemm.ee 5 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

Just value content

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[–] fyzzlefry@retrolemmy.com 5 points 17 hours ago

Shit, I'm sorry. I had close to 1m before I bailed. It was all quality comment karma though. I just have no life.

[–] Pregnenolone@lemmy.world 4 points 16 hours ago (3 children)

I think the only way to really fix this is to make votes a limited asset that accounts have. There are forums where this has worked okay: bodybuilding.com forums has a reputation system where accounts are limited in what they can give to other voters.

As long as “karma” is unlimited it suffers from the same problems whether you count it in aggregate or not. As some other commenters have said, people still seek validation in individual comments. I know because I do too.

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[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 4 points 16 hours ago

Thanks, kind stranger! Here's an updoot and Reddit Silver!

[–] SolarMonkey@slrpnk.net 4 points 8 hours ago (7 children)

Just don’t be a woman on Lemmy.

Sure, most people won’t downvote or harass you just for being a woman (a lot will.. we didn’t get the best of Reddit at all, and I doubt the new adoptees are any better…) but they will often enough make things difficult even if they aren’t actively causing problems.

But men of Lemmy (aka the vast majority of the user base since they ran off all the womenfolk) don’t care. They see that as quality control or some dumb shit, because THEY aren’t interested in woman things, so nobody should be, or they think their “as a man” comments should be important or some shit... Whatever the post is about. If it doesn’t cater to them, it can fuck right off.

Which is why cis women make up <10% of the Lemmy side of the fediverse. It’s a disaster for women here.

But I wonder how long you’ve been here. Most of the posts of this nature are from very new accounts and they don’t know the problems yet…

[–] Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago (3 children)

The downvotes prove your point. This topic needs more discussion, but most of the times when women bring this up, their comments get downvoted to hell. It's quite a "gotcha" for someone to ask to see "examples" when most of the examples we've come across or created will be buried or have since been deleted.

Alternative question - for those that don't believe this is an issue, when is the last time you came across a post on Lemmy that is specifically for/about women or women's issues (especially one posted from a woman's perspective)? Or even better, go ahead and make such a post. Watch how fast the downvotes come.

I expect this comment to be downvoted the same way as the parent comment was, the same way that past posts I've made and read about women's issues have been downvoted on Lemmy. If men want this place to be inclusive for women, they have to do their part to support us - not downvoting our concerns, simply because they don't experience the same issues, is the absolute bare minimum. Otherwise, why would we keep posting/commenting about our issues when doing so invites a downvote cascade?

[–] Coelacanth@feddit.nu 3 points 4 hours ago

Alternative question - for those that don't believe this is an issue, when is the last time you came across a post on Lemmy that is specifically for/about women or women's issues (especially one posted from a woman's perspective)? Or even better, go ahead and make such a post. Watch how fast the downvotes come.

I'm not going to say it isn't a problem, but this was just the other day and while engagement could have been better it didn't seem to be met with downvotes and pushback.

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[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 3 points 17 hours ago

Oh my sweet summer child,!

[–] Bonus@lemm.ee 3 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

Can't say I ever cared about karma. Lemmy reminds me of stripped down original reddit. Almost original. I remember when Reddit didn't even have thumbnails. Back then, there was a thing called memepool. You didn't know what you were going to get when you clicked on links on either site. There was a lot of fun unpredictable content and Reddit still meant you read it and we're vouching for it. It was like this whole world of quality stuff from really smart people. Thumbnails and subreddits ushered in a series of trashings and lead to intense divisiveness reddit never recovered from. . .

[–] ABetterTomorrow@lemm.ee 3 points 7 hours ago

That’s right! I said good shit in tech posts that was worth upvoting so others can see. Then there was an bad comment I wrote in patientgaming that deserved the downvotes and not worth reading.

[–] Kaboom@reddthat.com 3 points 16 hours ago (8 children)

No, there's karma. I've had more than a couple guys point out mine is negative.

[–] Pamasich@kbin.earth 3 points 8 hours ago

For context for the people downvoting this: Lemmy doesn't have karma, but Mbin does and it shows karma for Lemmy accounts too.

[–] TORFdot0@lemmy.world 3 points 15 hours ago

I think some apps will request all of your comment history and manually calculate karma but it’s not tracked by lemmy

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