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[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 32 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Full AOSP compatibility for Pixel devices is a huge reason to buy a Pixel instead of a 3rd party OEM. They're shooting themselves in the foot.

[–] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 28 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

That is probably a fraction of one percent of the pixel purchases.

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Maybe but those 1% of buyers are multiplicators incentivizing others to buy the same phone.

[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yes, they incentivize another 0.001%. How is google going to survive this?

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yes, they incentivize another 0.001%. How is google going to survive this?

Tech geeks acting as multiplication factors are the people who brought Apple from obscurity to mainstream.

[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net -3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That was 40 years ago. Any more recent examples?

[–] xavier666@lemm.ee 2 points 2 weeks ago

I don't agree with the other person but the closest example that I could find would be OnePlus. They had no physical shops, used word of mouth (influencers), had good marketing (flagship killer), and were relatively cheap. They quickly rose the ranks and became a mainstream brand.

[–] Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Yep. Thanks to this, I'm moving to IOS with a x64 handheld. I won't need a smartphone beyond calls and tethering so, why bother. Google can enjoy the fruits of their labor.

Which? Rn, a Steam Deck, but soon, something smaller and more palmable, still fishing for something good. I'd even take something pi-based.

Hard truth: With America going to shit, the EU needs a smartphone brand like...yesterday. Germans, get cooking!

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)
[–] TheFederatedPipe@fedia.io 20 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

This is the reason why I'm not a fan of permissive licenses.

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 15 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

This is the reason why I’m not a fan of permissive licenses.

If Google is the sole copyright holder, a copyleft license would change nothing because they still have the option to change the license going forward.

[–] TheFederatedPipe@fedia.io 11 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

That is actually a fair point, but I assume out of the millions of lines of code, not all of them come from Google, right?

That would requiere convincing the copyright holders of those lines, or at least rewrite them. The latter I don't see it impossible, but it would take time.

Still, I will always rather a strong copyleft license...

[–] Mondez@lemdro.id 6 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

They'll just do an Apple and publish the source to the bits they have to while keeping the bits they don't closed source making the os as a whole closed source.

[–] lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 weeks ago

So, basically what they're already starting to do?

[–] nibbler@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I don't understand.

also I thought Apple builds upon BSD style licensed stuff, while Android is on Linux which is gpl?

[–] Mondez@lemdro.id 1 points 3 weeks ago

Doesn't matter for a distribution, Apple historically also shipped some gpl tools like bash and Samba, they just provide the source for what they have to.

[–] HiTekRedNek@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

This myth needs to die. The only parts of BSD that Apple used for iOS/osx, were from bsd4.4 (released in like the 1990s). And even then it was only parts of the user space.

The kernel is a completely different beast.

[–] nibbler@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 weeks ago

I specifically said BSD style license. ChatGPT claims i the kennel started as a mix of the mach and FreeBSD kennels as base, improved by Apple. sadly I could but find any proper source :(

are you seen to know that "The kernel is a completely different beast.", maybe you can shed some light

[–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 13 points 3 weeks ago

They planned so from the start.

[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Of course they are. They always did. The entire ecosystem is so closely tied to google services that it's almost impossible to use the phone without them (if you want to use banking and security apps). For now the only alternative is iOS and I'm starting to doubt if mobile Linux will ever become usable.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Soooo, that means that android is fucked but custom roms should be able to continue from android 15, not?

[–] LWD@lemm.ee 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)
[–] xavier666@lemm.ee 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

How will Samsung/OnePlus use Android 17 and 18?