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[–] seven_phone@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

Corporations trying to profit by closing off vast tracts of human output are bumping into other corporations trying to mine it for profit.

[–] Horrabin@programming.dev 6 points 2 days ago

This sounds like socialism is good for capitalists

[–] Lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 days ago

Good, fuck "AI" fuck copyright, fuck patents, fuck proprietary closed-source software, fuck capitalism, fuck billionaires, and fuck you, Sam, in particular.

[–] rainrain@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 day ago

To be fair copyright is a disease. But then so is billionaires, capitalism, business, etc.

I mean, if there's a war, and you shoot somebody, does that make you bad?

Yes and no.

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (6 children)

Alright, I confess! Almost all of my training in computer programming came from copyrighted material. Put the cuffs on me!

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[–] momodocho@lemmings.world 6 points 2 days ago
[–] weremacaque@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Good. If I ever published anything, I would absolutely not want it to be pirated by AI so some asshole can plagiarize it later down the line and not even cite their sources.

[–] wewbull@feddit.uk 6 points 2 days ago

🤞🤞 🙏

[–] azalty@jlai.lu 5 points 1 day ago (14 children)

To be fair, they’re not wrong. We need to find a legal comprise that satisfies everyone

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I'll take him seriously if & when OpenAI lives up to its name.

[–] Glent@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 days ago

Guarantee their plan is to blow through copyright laws to create a monopoly fiefdom, close the door behind them and demand that copyright is used to protect the work their LLM creates.

[–] Sibbo@sopuli.xyz 5 points 2 days ago

Oh no! How could we ever live without AI?

My main takeaway is that some contrived notion of "national security" has now become an acceptable justification for business decisions in the US.

[–] Professorozone@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago
[–] patrick@lemmy.bestiver.se 5 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I don’t think they’re wrong in saying that if they aren’t allowed to train on copyrighted works then they will fall behind. Maybe I missed it in the article, but Japan for example has that exact law (use of copyright to train generative AI is allowed).

Personally I think we need to give them somewhat of an out by letting them do it but then taxing the fuck out of the resulting product. “You can use copyrighted works for training but then 50% of your profits are taxed”. Basically a recognition that the sum of all copyrighted works is a societal good and not just an individual copyright holders.

https://jackson.dev/post/generative-ai-and-copyright/

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

No, taxes implies a monopoly on the training data. The government profits. The rights holders get nothing back.

If private data is deemed public for AI training then the results of that training (code+weights+source list) should also be deemed public.

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