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Other images displayed by Trump during meeting with South African president Cyril Ramaphosa were false or misleading

The evidence of supposed mass killings of white South Africans presented by Donald Trump in a tense White House meeting on Wednesday were in some cases images from the Democratic Republic of Congo, while footage shown during the meeting was falsely portrayed as depicting “burial sites”.

“These are all white farmers that are being buried,” said Trump, holding up a print-out of an article accompanied by a picture during the contentious Oval Office meeting with South African President Cyril Ramaphosa.

The picture accompanying the article was in fact a screengrab of a video published by Reuters on 3 February and subsequently verified by the news agency’s fact check team, showing humanitarian workers lifting body bags in the Congolese city of Goma. The image was pulled from Reuters footage shot after deadly battles with Rwanda-backed M23 rebels.

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[–] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 122 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] epicstove@lemmy.ca 34 points 23 hours ago (3 children)

Honestly, I don't know if he's knowingly lying or just genuinely fucking stupid.

[–] Tiger@sh.itjust.works 64 points 23 hours ago (3 children)

Fun fact, it’s both! He knows he’s lying all the time and doesn’t care. He’s also stupid.

[–] vortexsurfer@lemmy.world 4 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

My theory is that he's so narcissistic that he genuinely believes every thought that comes into his mind is the truth.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 1 points 9 hours ago

hes like the system lords, they believe in thier own bs, because of thier narccistic personalities, except one.

[–] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 3 points 14 hours ago

This is the right answer. Life has already shown him that operating on a level playing field and being honest, really doesn't get a guy like him very far. So the genius workaround is to lie your pants off instead, and build an alternative environment around yourself where you can't lose.

[–] Bear_pile@lemm.ee 3 points 13 hours ago

That is certainly a fact, but I'm not sure I'd consider it a fun one.

[–] refurbishedrefurbisher@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

Fascists can never admit that they're wrong, becauae then their vaneer of being infallible immediately falls apart.

I still remember back in 2015-2016 when 4chan called Trump "God Emperor." That mentality hasn't gone away. Fascism is a cult.

The only "truth" that fascists believe is the "truth" of the fascist leader. Trump even calls his social media platform "Truth Social" FFS. It couldn't be more blatent.

[–] Yermaw@lemm.ee 4 points 14 hours ago

In his defence (feels dirty and weird typing that) he's probably being lied to. I have very little clue about the legitimacy of information I get on world news, as everybody has an agenda and misinformation is so easy to create and disseminate. If he's got to be on the case with basically every issue, he'll just be getting fed information and has to trust that his advisors know what they're doing. I wouldn't bother fact checking everything if I were in that position, there's simply not enough hours in the day.

Of course he's also a confirmed liar and a known prick so who knows.

[–] liverbe@lemmy.world 22 points 23 hours ago

You can tell he is lying because he's talking

[–] iasmina2007@lemmy.world 82 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] Lumidaub@feddit.org 31 points 1 day ago (1 children)

How does that happen? Who goes "text text text, blah blah blah, now I need a specific flag, let's definitely type 'flag' and tediously look for the right one, because typing [country name] would be too easy"? I get that they look VERY similar and I couldn't tell you which one is which if they're side-by-side but that doesn't fucking matter if you simply ask your keyboard for the country! Gaaaaaawddddddd.

Romania: 🇷🇴 Chad: 🇹🇩

Same for stereotypical USians going "yeeeeah 🇱🇷🇱🇷🇱🇷🇱🇷"

[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 33 points 1 day ago (1 children)

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Legit identical on my phone.

Also I use the Liberia flag ironically all the time. It's fun to see who notices.

[–] Lumidaub@feddit.org 9 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

There's a miniscule difference in the yellow. Also eeeever so slightly more "shine" in Chad's red.

source believe me bro

[–] Mac@mander.xyz 9 points 17 hours ago (2 children)
[–] theangryseal@lemmy.world 6 points 17 hours ago

This is what I see.

[–] ChairmanMeow@programming.dev 1 points 3 hours ago

Interesting, for me there's a fairly clear difference in the colour blue:

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[–] OmegaLemmy@discuss.online 2 points 19 hours ago
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[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 70 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Ramaphosa was right to ask "I'd like to know where that is", when the "evidence" was shown to him live.

Other world leaders should be prepared to challenge Trump right to his face when he fabricates lies like this in those pathetic ambush attempts.

[–] Amberskin@europe.pub 2 points 4 hours ago

No other world leader should accept an invite to the WH. Right now it’s 100% an ambush.

[–] CircaV@lemmy.ca 69 points 23 hours ago
[–] CircaV@lemmy.ca 57 points 19 hours ago (2 children)
[–] HiddenLychee@lemmy.world 8 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

I once got into an argument with a south African on reddit about white genocide. Even over there it's a political issue, but the way he and many people describe it makes it seem like if you even set foot there as a white person you'll get mugged.

I was saying I lived there for six months, spent a lot of town in the townships where it was only black people, and I legit never once was harmed. Yeah it's dangerous but like, they act like they've never been in a dangerous neighborhood in the states.

But because I was an American sharing this perspective and they were South African, I got relentlessly shamed by redditors. To be fair I get where they're coming from. If you have no clue about the issue and someone from another country trying to say something said about that persons own country is BS, it doesn't look good. But it's literally a political topic and he was coming at it from the extreme right perspective. Because I'm an American, like a dozen people took away from that thread that white genocide is real.

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[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 3 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Quick, post it a third time

[–] CircaV@lemmy.ca 3 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

It just applies in so many situations!!! 🤷‍♂️

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 1 points 15 hours ago

It's the same situation.

[–] RedditIsDeddit@lemmy.world 54 points 1 day ago

I don't think anybody in our federal government that's in charge of anything has any good intentions at all at this point

[–] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 44 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

he would have said that these were real coffins for white farmers children if they didn't have the palestinian flag on them.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqvp1FOir4Y

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[–] Charlxmagne@lemmy.world 16 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

To choose SA of all places for this particular agenda has to be the most ironic thing I've heard in a while 🤦‍♂️ quite brave asw considering Musk's family history

[–] Etterra@discuss.online 9 points 12 hours ago

Like he can tell the difference.

[–] JackFrostNCola@aussie.zone 9 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

"Look at me, i am the fake news now" -Dictator Donnie

[–] Tja@programming.dev 9 points 6 hours ago

Now???

- the rest of the world

[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 5 points 16 hours ago

I heard the photos were supplied by the US based neo fucking Nazi group American Tinker.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 4 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

funny how the racists come out in the comments as soon as any thread mentions white genocide.

[–] ssfckdt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 14 hours ago

Well

Where is Congo?

Is it in the north?

I rest my case /s

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