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[–] AreaKode@lemmy.world 290 points 2 days ago (10 children)

Weird. The party that claims to be "for the people" keeps putting centrists in charge. We're ready for someone who is actually for the people!

[–] fluxion@lemmy.world 193 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Quickest way to mobilize the Democratic party is to threaten to put a progressive in charge

[–] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 143 points 2 days ago (3 children)

They learned their lesson with Obama. The funny thing is he’s not even a fucking leftist, the party is just so full of dinosaurs they think a modern centrist is a leftist.

[–] WarlordSdocy@lemm.ee 50 points 2 days ago (2 children)

With Obama they just learned how to take a somewhat progressive candidates and bend them into a moderate. It's the same thing that happened with Kamala, although of course it's hard to say if either were ever really progressive or if they just used that for votes and didn't mind discarding it once they got pressured by the party and consultants.

[–] Redditsux@lemmy.world 51 points 2 days ago (6 children)

Kamala was never progressive.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 31 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Neither was Obama. Not long after he put a bow on the nomination, he voted for an expansive security bill. A lot of people were surprised, but not me.

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[–] MajinBlayze@lemmy.world 27 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 32 points 2 days ago

See Bernie Sanders.

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[–] resipsaloquitur@lemm.ee 65 points 2 days ago (12 children)

They’re definitely for the billionaire people.

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 55 points 2 days ago (1 children)

DNC: I am here for the working people-- from billionaires, all the way to millionaires.

[–] SippyCup@feddit.nl 26 points 2 days ago

From the business owners to the CEOs, the Democrats are here to hear you. All the people, white or tan, brown people of light complexion as long as they have a 401k and 10 million in assets they will LISTEN

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[–] chunes@lemmy.world 35 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Sadly I don't think it's possible to have a party "for the people" with only two parties. There's too much pressure for both of them to champion the status quo.

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[–] RedditIsDeddit@lemmy.world 149 points 2 days ago

she's got my vote

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 112 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (8 children)

She's not the face of the Democratic Party

She's the face of a completely new and different party that has nothing to do with old Democrats.

To me, I've been viewing the US as being governed under a one party state for a while ... the Republicans and the Democrats form two halves of the same organization.

The US doesn't need a third party

They need to form a new second opposition party because the old one morphed into the monstrous thing we have today.

[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 74 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (6 children)

The US needs a third, a fourth, a fifth and several more parties as viable alternatives.

They to drop any weird FPTP systems, this will allow new parties to come into play.

This would also end the ridiculous gerrymandering shit

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[–] lemmus@lemmy.world 26 points 2 days ago

One of the UK’s two parties has died and the other is in the process of killing itself. Two party duopolies can disintegrate, even under FPTP, we just have to hope that Left parties emerge, not just rebranded far-right ones.

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[–] noxypaws@pawb.social 102 points 2 days ago (14 children)

Next to Bernie she's the best the Dems have to offer. And for any possible run for President, she beats Bernie on age.

If they run Harris again, or Newsom or some other conservative Democrat in 2028, the party is fucked.

[–] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 57 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Newsom is trying his level best to have a right-of-center glow up right now. I'm almost certain that the DNC plans to tilt the scales for him. They likely will resist running a woman again for a long time because they've stupidly come to the conclusion that it was the genitalia of the candidates and not the quality of the candidate, campaign, and platform that caused them to lose what should have been two of the most winnable elections ever.

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[–] notannpc@lemmy.world 99 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I promise you the Democratic Party will do whatever it takes to keep her away from leadership roles because she actually wants to change things.

That’s the one thing the Democratic Party is consistent on: rejecting progressives, even if it means letting the conservatives win.

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[–] Allonzee@lemmy.world 68 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

We should be so lucky to have a party she represents in this country. The only reason she has that seat is by defying the DNC as a spoiler. They only elevate politicians to the Federal level on the basis of how good they've proven they are at collecting that sweet, sweet corpo bribe money.

The DNC and democratic leadership would rather dissappear her Than Trump by a mile.

The pendulum is the point. Both parties are well bribed to maintain the capitalist's murderous control. Good cop and bad cop are both just fine with mass homelessness and entire murder for profit confidence scheme market sectors. One laughs at you when the capitalists cause you harm, the other just shrugs and says "golly gee market forces nothing we can do! But I affirm your right to die horribly as who you are here in this cardboard box under a freeway! Pronouns are free so whatever I still get bribed 😁" (edit to be clear, respecting others identity is the right thing to do and basic decency, but there's a hierarchy of needs, self-actualization only matters if you have your basic needs met. You cannot live in an affirmation ribbon, you cannot eat a preferred pronoun, priorities.)

If the Democrats were led by someone talking about redistribution, that bribe gravy train would stop. If by some miracle AOC manages to steal the party out from under them as Trump did the RNC, the DNC would be fighting her every move and comment the way we wish they were countering Trump right now. In fact, here's how Democrat leadership spent the months leading to Trump's inauguration:

https://www.axios.com/2024/12/12/aoc-pelosi-oversight-committee-connolly-raskin

Defending the country from one of the only slightly left Reps in the entire federal government.

Democrats like Schumer and Pelosi are far closer to Trump than AOC.

https://apnews.com/article/business-nancy-pelosi-congress-8685e82eb6d6e5b42413417f3d5d6775

[–] zebidiah@lemmy.ca 63 points 2 days ago (2 children)

That's funny, because the dnc does not share any of her ideology, and it's not even close

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 42 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Because the DNC leadership doesn't represent anyone except for the donors who own them.

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[–] Mustakrakish@lemmy.world 26 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Yeah she needs to spilt and be the face of an actual workers party, not the mask for the failed democrats.

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[–] AbouBenAdhem@lemmy.world 54 points 2 days ago (9 children)

“Currently, there is no consensus on the face of the Democrat Party, as a majority of voters either give the title to AOC (26%) or simply say there is none (26%),” Co/efficient concluded.

Never heard of Co/efficient, but “Democrat Party” is a bit of a red flag. From mediabiasfactcheck:

FiveThirtyEight, an expert on measuring and rating pollster performance, has evaluated 20 polls by co/efficient, earning 0.7 stars for accuracy, indicating they are Mixed Factual by MBFC’s criteria. They also conclude that their polling moderately favors the Right with a score of -2.7, which equates to a Right-Center polling bias. In general, co/efficient is considered moderately accurate and demonstrates a right-leaning bias in polling.

[–] 9point6@lemmy.world 49 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

MBFC gives The Guardian and Breitbart equivalent ratings for factuality, which is patently ridiculous

It's not a reliable gauge of anything, and it's harmful to trust its rankings

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[–] frezik@midwest.social 54 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

Make it clear to the Democratic Party establishment that progressive candidates will be on the ballot in every congressional district in Nov 2026, and they will be a spoiler candidate if they have to be. Either way, we are done with their shit. There will never be a better time.

[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 35 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

they will be a spoiler candidate if they have to be

I'd rather phrase it as "and they better not run a neolib spoiler candidate". It's not the progressives with popular support who are spoilers, but the neoliberals who are only propped up by corpo lobbies.

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[–] nthavoc@lemmy.today 53 points 2 days ago (9 children)

Water is wet. Wasn't this obvious when the DNC kingmakers, I mean, leadership decided to boot her out of a key committee position with a person that that could have passed for a republican and retired after getting the position? A poll was needed to see this?

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[–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 47 points 2 days ago (9 children)

Are they... Still considering Harris for 2028??? What? Please god. Make it stop. Please.

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[–] mrodri89@lemmy.zip 47 points 2 days ago (18 children)

Disagree. The Democrats dont know who they are anymore. Pelosi and the old Democrats have got to go.

AOC should just make a new party.

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 59 points 1 day ago (5 children)

No, we don't have time for that. We just have to do a tea party on the Democratic party... Which is what she's been doing

They do have to go, but we're keeping the house and the dog

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[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 46 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Ocasio-Cortez was far ahead of other listed Democrats. Coming in a distant second was close ally Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT). The pair recently went to various states with their Fighting Oligarchy tour. Rep. Jasmine Crockett (D-TX) placed third in the survey with 8%.

Former Vice President Kamala Harris came in fourth with 6%. Following her was Pete Buttigieg with 5%, House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries (D-NY) with 5%, Sen. Cory Booker (D-NJ) with 4%, and California Governor Gavin Newsom (D-CA) with 2%.

Why did they list the percentage for all of these people, but not for Bernie's second place position?

That is a rhetorical question.

I was going to calculate his percentage but 26 + 26 + 22 + 8 + 5 + 5 + 4 + 2 is 98%. Did they lump Bernie in with 'other'?

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 29 points 2 days ago (3 children)

and California Governor Gavin Newsom (D-CA) with 2%.

Looks like Newsom will be the candidate for 2028 then...

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[–] theangryseal@lemmy.world 45 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I’ve been saying for about 5 years, maybe better, that she is the person I am most excited to vote for as president of the United States one day.

I don’t even have another name in mind.

I will be as happy to vote for her as I was for Sanders in the primaries, twice. I legit can’t wait.

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[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 43 points 2 days ago (9 children)

I still have to lol about how the stupid qons tried to use her dancing in university as some kind of BAD thing.

Back when Denver Post still had a comment section and they'd allow gifs, and if the topic was AOC, I'd post her dancing. A few of the local wingnuts would try to get me banned/my posts removed over it, esp. if one of the qanon mods was on-duty...

She's the best. Why the buzzkills in the unhinged right tried to paint a beautiful intelligent rep like AOC dancing during college as a bad thing is anyone's guess, but that sure as fuck blew up in their faces....

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[–] Sillyglow@lemmy.ca 39 points 2 days ago (4 children)

So let me get this straight: somehow just dancing is somehow worse than drinking beers in fraternities and raping?

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[–] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 43 points 2 days ago

DNC: "Ewwww a progressive? We wouldn't be as rich with a progressive in charge!"

[–] pjwestin@lemmy.world 42 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Coming in a distant second was close ally Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT). The pair recently went to various states with their Fighting Oligarchy tour. Rep. Jasmine Crockett (D-TX) placed third in the survey with 8%.

Former Vice President Kamala Harris came in fourth with 6%. Following her was Pete Buttigieg with 5%, House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries (D-NY) with 5%, Sen. Cory Booker (D-NJ) with 4%, and California Governor Gavin Newsom (D-CA) with 2%.

LOL, Chuck Schumer didn't even place. That gives me a little hope.

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[–] Pnut@lemm.ee 39 points 1 day ago

She's one of only half a handful of Dems that sound ready to lead people into battle. The difference between how she uses knowledge and intelligence to speak to people is in stark comparison to Trump sounding exactly like he has dementia. She listens and responds. Trump just keeps interrupting any question he doesn't like. Fuck you Maga. Fuck you entirely. You god damn idiots.

[–] 2ugly2live@lemmy.world 35 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I would prefer a new party, but I'm glad that she and Bernie are still out there.

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[–] Feelfold@lemm.ee 33 points 2 days ago (10 children)

Zero chance the DNC will run her. They'll give us another white bread, right of center, compromise candidate. The Overton window has shifted so far right we need to build a new wall to house it.

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[–] ExPLiCiT@lemmy.world 32 points 2 days ago (3 children)

My concern is that now that Trump is in office and project 2025 is in full swing, that we will never see another fair election again.

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[–] Phegan@lemmy.world 30 points 1 day ago

Funny what happens when you actually do something.

[–] Windex007@lemmy.world 27 points 2 days ago (2 children)

"And it's not even close"

She's in a statistical tie with "nobody".

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[–] Xanza@lemm.ee 27 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The best part about it, is that the old-as-fuck Democrats hate it, which makes me love it all the more.

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[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 25 points 2 days ago

She's already 35. Run her.

[–] AmazingAwesomator@lemmy.world 24 points 2 days ago (9 children)

and she is old enough for presidential nomination now. do it, aoc.

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[–] ScrambledEggs@lazysoci.al 24 points 2 days ago (6 children)

She should distance herself from that sinking ship. It's like continuing CPR on a victim who is already dead. Yeah you're trying but ultimately it's no use. Both main parties have been so tarnished that even being associated with the name is a smudge on the record.

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[–] Tigeroovy@lemmy.ca 23 points 1 day ago (2 children)

She's one of like 3 US politicians that I don't just kind of low-key actively hate.

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