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Anyone here tried Owncloud? (lemmy.zip)
submitted 12 hours ago by possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip to c/selfhosted@lemmy.world
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I've gotten a bit tired of Nextcloud as of late an I'm curious it is a viable alternative. I like having Nextcloud Talk but I can live without it.

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[–] JakeSparkleChicken@midwest.social 28 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

In the beginning, there was ownCloud. They were a good FLOSS offering that decided to start catering solely to corporate customers in the hopes of juicy support contracts. The community who had been contributing the majority of the code gave them a mighty "Fork you" and created NextCloud.

That was about ten years ago. I haven't looked into ownCloud for the last seven or so, but it had stagnated pretty badly by that point. Maybe they've gotten some fresh blood since then, but you'll likely find it to be quite lacking in features and plugins comparatively.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 3 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I like that they are using Go instead of Php

[–] ilmagico@lemmy.world 3 points 10 hours ago

I had heard they had rewritten it in go and got a lot more performant, not sure what else they have done. I don't care much about the politics as long as it's still open source (is it?).

That said, I'm a happy nextcloud user and I don't see a reason to switch (after moving both data and db onto SSDs it's much faster, so maybe php wasn't the bottleneck).

[–] bigDottee@geekroom.tech 12 points 12 hours ago

Like others, I started with owncloud but when Nextcloud forked I switched within a year. I haven’t looked back and is working without any issues and is performant.

I don’t really care about the enterprise shit since it’s not being shoved in my face 🤷🏼‍♂️

[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 8 points 9 hours ago (3 children)

If you're looking for a good Nextcloud replacement I recommend Seafile. Been using it for years, very solid.

[–] xi00@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

I can second that, I've been using seafile and Baikal for about a year now coming from next cloud. The systems are so much smoother and less resource hungry. Next cloud is good when you have a small company, which I don't think applies to many self hosters. I have everything inside a docker compose setup, so everything from backups to updates is much easier, and with a nginx proxy and proper network isolation I don't have security concerns with running smaller tools such as Baikal on my machine.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 2 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

That's just for files though. I'm looking for calendar and contact management as well

[–] spiffpitt@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago

have you looked into baikal?

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 hours ago

I'm playing with it now. So far so good, after a rocky setup.

[–] roofuskit@lemmy.world 8 points 12 hours ago

I used to but had issues with it. Switched to Nextcloud.

[–] samc@feddit.uk 7 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Be aware there are basically two different things called Owncloud. There's still the original php version, which is similar to nextcloud but worse (not open source, smaller plugin ecosystem I think)

On the other hand is owncloud "infinite scale" (or ocis). This is the thing entirely written in go. But as others have pointed out, it's little more than a file server at this point.

IMO the self-hosting community is really missing a self-contained "all the DAVs" server (files, calendar, contacts). Baikal etc seem like a great start, but it would be great to have somewhere to get those parts pre-assembled. Until then, nextcloud works for me.

[–] MaggiWuerze@feddit.org 1 points 1 hour ago

Yeah, I thought that as well. Just give me a headless Dav Server and have people create frontends for it

[–] mesamunefire@lemmy.world 6 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Yep. I like next cloud much better.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 3 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Yeah I just need to clean up my install so it isn't so bogged down.

[–] crusa187@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 hours ago (3 children)

You running it on bare metal? Much better that way vs docker in my experience

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

I might switch to AIO. Maybe podman if I get inspired. Bare metal is just way to hard to maintain. I could automate it with Ansible but at that point I might as well use containers.

[–] skankhunt42@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 minutes ago

I've had no problems with the normal nextcloud apache container for the last couple years. I lock to a major version and let it update itself on the minors until I feel like like changing the yaml to the next major. I've gone from 24 to 30 this way without issue.

Actually, I do have to install the contacts and calendar apps from time to time but that's only when I want to use the webUI for them, caldav/carddav has always worked.

[–] huskypenguin@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 hours ago

I have the docker AIO going for about a year after every other form of install exploded itself. So far so good.

[–] PatrickYaa@lemmy.one 1 points 1 hour ago

I have yet to install it, but I plan to run it "baremetal" in a Debian VM, would that be better than in a docker, or do I actually need to run it baremetal, in parallel/ on a different system than proxmox? (Or it's own LXC container)

[–] MaggiWuerze@feddit.org 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

I've been using a docker stack for Nextcloud for years without issues, after switching to postgres it also got a lot faster

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 hours ago

How is it set up? What are you running it on?

My Nextcloud instance doesn't use a ton of resources. But I'm on a somewhat beefy machine (16GB RAM, 8-core CPU), so YMMV.

[–] Scrubber0777@lemmy.ml 4 points 9 hours ago

I am using Owncloud OCIS now. A much leaner version and provides just the file sharing and doc editing feature.

Hosting with docker with just one container is fairly straight forward and easy if you don't need document editors.

So far has been very performant.

[–] xrun_detected@programming.dev 3 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

Owncloud seems to be pretty much over IIRC.

The company behind it got bought be some american company in 2023, that promised that everything will "stay as open as it is" - you won't believe what happened next ;)

Then recently many of the developers left to join OpenCloud, which seems to be a fork of owncloud, lead by a german open source veteran.

https://github.com/opencloud-eu

[–] loudWaterEnjoyer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 hour ago

NextCloud already forked from owncloud?

[–] MaggiWuerze@feddit.org 1 points 1 hour ago

I really would like to switch to them, it seems way more responsive than Nextcloud and I only really need a Web/CalDav server and don't want to have that in two different services

[–] Tiritibambix@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 hours ago

I talked about it here last year

[–] unlogic@lemmy.zip 2 points 4 hours ago

Tried it but couldn't get the Linux client to connect to it no matter what I tried. I went back to NextCloud. But as I only ever used the file sync I ultimately switched to Seafile