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The West was moving to the right — and then Donald Trump got elected again

Something is happening among America's allies, and it's a tremendous relief. For some years now, we've seen the MAGA-infused global right gaining a foothold amongst western democracies, largely driven by the same demagogic, nationalist, pseudo-populism that has fueled Donald Trump's dominance on the American right.

Some countries like Hungary have served as a sort of experiment for the kind of post-democratic autocracies dreamt of by the modern right wing in which government co-opts, intimidates and de-legitimizes the political opposition to create an authoritarianism that dominates the culture and the politics without a lot of overt violence.

But the rise of the far right among the Western allies seems to be stalling out.

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[–] lupusblackfur@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

But the rise of the far right among the Western allies seems to be stalling out.

Sorry, wut??

Can't imagine what in the screaming goat fuck would lead you to this conclusion other than pure blind idiocy...

🤷‍♂️ 🤡 🖕

[–] Binky@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 1 day ago

I sure hope this is right…

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You have to wonder what infects the minds of people such that they fall for this in other countries.

I have a good idea what does it here.

[–] shawn1122@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

To put it simply, the prosperity of Europeans and their descendants was paid for through the bloodshed of colonial exploitation. This created an inherently inequal world order.

The world has become more equal post WW2 and the descendants of the greatest beneficiaries of that exploitation are now displeased that they don't hold the same advantages their ancestors did. That's why we have to go back. That's why we have to make _____ great again.

Most PoC can hear these dogwhistles (if you can even call them that) from a mile away.

[–] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I wouldn't give Trump the credit for this. Yeah he is a great example of how bad it can get but the move to the left has been long on its way and picking up speednfornsome time! Trump may have boosted a snowball that was already rolling

[–] entwine413@lemm.ee 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Except it's really not a move to the left, it's just a slight slowing down of the move to the right. Fascism is currently gaining footholds in much of the western world.

So, while the handful of left victories are great, it's super dangerous to frame them as a reversal of fascism.

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 day ago

I can't assuredly say we have beat conservative populism yet, but we are at least bringing competence to government.

The issue we haven't solved is that many young people now are coming of age upon a platter of socially engineered falsehood.

[–] Kyrrrr@lemmynsfw.com 5 points 1 day ago

Headlines like this are for protecting the oligarchy. We all get involved until our lawmakers aren't old rich people. We pass laws that require oversight and transparency. We protect those institutions and laws that serve democracy with our lives.

[–] doingthestuff@lemy.lol 4 points 13 hours ago

He only got reelected because Democrats seemed to care about twenty other things more than the working class. If they can't figure that out things are only going to get worse. They'll probably get worse no matter what, the only question is who people will blame. It should be the elite class but they'll blame poor voters on the other team and nonvoters instead.

[–] Gregg@lemm.ee 4 points 1 day ago

But is it really?

[–] Kinperor@lemmy.ca 3 points 16 hours ago

I think that - on a global scale - a fair amount of people has cause to be grateful to Trump. Whether it's intended or not, he's tearing down the current geopolitical statu quo and waking up people politically.

On the flipside, I do worry that we narrowly avoided the fire in order to stay in the pan, to subvert the old saying. Over in Canada, we reelected a party that has a lot of flaws, and that their defining benefit is "isn't the conservative right". I'm glad we avoided a conservative sweep, but let's not pretend the shady opposition is significantly better.

[–] Gates9@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago
[–] Freshparsnip@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago

That might be the silver lining to all this

[–] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

I feel it's more like a fluke than a rule. We all just got lucky. It's not like any of us are doing anything to prepare for that next election cycle. But I guarantee you that they are.

I seriously still see mailboxes in my neighborhood with flyers about conservative. They treated the election like they were Punk kids promoting their favorite band around town. They mobilized in ways the left only dream of and they didn't vaporize when they lost. They will come back more determined

[–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 2 points 1 day ago

Looks like I'm gonna have to buy another newspaper tomorrow.

[–] wanderwisley@lemm.ee 1 points 16 hours ago

We might actually get world peace, as for peace in America?…

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