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[–] ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 21 hours ago (2 children)
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[–] ThatGuyNamedZeus@feddit.org -5 points 1 day ago (5 children)

100 ping? you seriously can't play with a tenth of a second ping time? Sounds like you're a shitty gamer making excuses

[–] chatokun@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think over 100 starts making your off-gcds clip on FFXIV, and stuff like getting 6 hits properly for Wildfire on MCH(probably some other stuff too). It's not unplayable, but it is frustrating and distracting, so can cause an ADHD person like me significant stress when doing content like Savage raids and Ultimates

[–] ThatGuyNamedZeus@feddit.org 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Final Fantasy 14? Don't know what MCH is, never heard of Wildfire

[–] chatokun@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

Mch stands for Machinist, a ranged gun class in FF14, and wildfire is an attack from said class that gets stronger the more hits you land during its duration. The max hits is 6, but enough lag and you can only get 5 of them off in the window. The game has a default 2.5 second global cool down between skills, though some gear and some skills can reduce that. In particular for Wildfire, you combine it with a skill that allows 5 hits of itself plus 1 other at 1.5s per cool down, but if you're adding another .1 to each of those it can add up to miss unless very tight on timing.

Not a game breaker, but if you're trying to push through your best performance because your group is failing at 1-2% you can't really help not being mad at it.

Edit: in addition, the frustration isn't you personally dying in some pvp, but your group of 8 friends you're also holding back on fights. In addition to lowering damage, deaths can wear down your healers mp(and significantly lower your own damage output) so some tight mechanics can be harder to react, especially if your brain has you move wrong at first. None of these by themselves are terrible, but over the course of 3 hours working at clearing multiple fights it can wear you out and kill your enjoyment.

[–] ThatGuyNamedZeus@feddit.org 1 points 1 hour ago

Edit: in addition, the frustration isn’t you personally dying in some pvp, but your group of 8 friends you’re also holding back on fights. In addition to lowering damage, deaths can wear down your healers mp(and significantly lower your own damage output) so some tight mechanics can be harder to react, especially if your brain has you move wrong at first. None of these by themselves are terrible, but over the course of 3 hours working at clearing multiple fights it can wear you out and kill your enjoyment.

I don't even do PVP in anything anymore. It's too stressful to be the only one who's trying to win while the other team is a group of friends that are full of gear I can't get. Between that and the people who actually cheat to win, I just can't do it anymore.

How do I know they cheat? because my attacks registered with a pretty high amount of damage and their health didn't go down even one bit. Other times, the same attacks with the same character will wipe out each enemy player I attack and it requires the entire other team to focus on just me for me to die

I like to play as stealth classes and I'm good at going to places most people don't check, you should see how I play Gmod prop hunt. I'm great at it

[–] trolololol@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

If the person shooting you has 30ms ping, I'd say it's a significant advantage.

[–] ThatGuyNamedZeus@feddit.org 1 points 6 hours ago

To human perception a 0.1 seconds isn't much different than 0.03 seconds

I forgot if it was you I asked about this or not. But are you sure the one with slightly less ping time isn't just cheating?

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world -5 points 1 day ago (5 children)

if a person shooting me has a lower ping and I get upset about it with a 100 ping I need to touch grass.

back in my day I played Halo with a 1300-2000 ping and still whipped ass.

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[–] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

As an amateur, in a fast paced shooter, vs. an equally skilled player, it went from a fair match with equal pings to one player dominating the other with 100 vs. 70 ping.

[–] ThatGuyNamedZeus@feddit.org 1 points 6 hours ago

that little of a difference really matters? Are you sure that the one with a tiny bit less ping isn't just cheating?

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