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[–] GrassCat@lemmy.world 236 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (15 children)

Elissa Slotkin IS the oligarchy. She is the Hot Dog Princess. Her grandpa owned BallPark Franks—subsidiary of the Tyson Foods megacorp. Every time someone eats a hot dog, Elissa gets more passive income than most folks earn from a year’s labor.

[–] Blackout@fedia.io 62 points 1 day ago (1 children)

She sucks, I voted for Harper in the primaries but the Dems are full of neo-libs like her. It's hard to see that party go more liberal even with Sander's and AOC's help

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 39 points 1 day ago

They actively work against Sanders and AOC. Both are the enemy to the average corporate-whore Dem.

[–] superkret@feddit.org 33 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I didn't realize hot dogs got so expensive!

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[–] Monument@lemmy.sdf.org 25 points 1 day ago (1 children)

She also is only in office because she kept district hopping to avoid getting primaried until she was up for a senate seat, whereupon the Democratic Party pushed out or made concessions to all the other better candidates so they would drop. She’s widely reviled.

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[–] neukenindekeuken@sh.itjust.works 177 points 1 day ago (1 children)

"Not resonating with voters"

Bernie and AOC's "Fighting Oligarchy" campaign is pulling in more people to their rallies than attended Obama's in 08.

Don't peddle that horseshit you Liberal traitor.

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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 157 points 1 day ago (15 children)

We don't need more "pro-israel centrists"

The reason Dem turnout in generals is depressed, is our choices are CIA war criminals like Slotking or a republican.

She is the problem, not the 99.9% who don't want an oligarchy

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[–] Trebuchet@lemm.ee 104 points 1 day ago (4 children)
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[–] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 97 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (16 children)

No, she can fuck off.

The oligarchy is killing us, and spinning language won’t change that. Meanwhile, ‘woke’ just means ‘social empathy’, which is ironically the solution to many of the problems the oligarchy is causing (and they’re not shy about this – Musk recently said empathy is bad).

We need more ‘woke’, not less. And being butthurt that the fascists are using ‘woke’ as a slur against us is childish and easy to ignore if you’re not too simple to get it.

Fuck this. I’m woke and proud of it. We all should be.

[–] CalipherJones@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Woke means understanding we live in an oligarchy in my mind. MAGA calls people sheep while complaining about them being woke in the same breath. They don't even understand the language they use.

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[–] Ep1cFac3pa1m@lemmy.world 76 points 1 day ago (7 children)

Maybe the democrats need to ditch pro-oligarchy anti-woke members 🤷‍♂️

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[–] Gregg@lemm.ee 68 points 1 day ago

The oligarchy pays me to pretend to fight for you! Wait. Cut that part.

[–] mcv@lemm.ee 67 points 1 day ago

Way to advertise what side she's really on.

[–] triptrapper@lemmy.world 62 points 1 day ago

I can’t do what [AOC] does because we live in a purple state, and I’m a pragmatist

"It's pragmatic for me to avoid making my Republican donors upset." What an idiot.

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 62 points 1 day ago (1 children)
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[–] carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zone 59 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)
[–] Xanza@lemm.ee 59 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Her name is: Sen. Elissa Slotkin (D-MI)

Just so you don't accidentally vote for her.

[–] Apple87sagan@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago

Ulg shes the one voting with repubs

[–] untakenusername@sh.itjust.works 56 points 1 day ago (5 children)
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[–] macaro@lemmy.blahaj.zone 54 points 1 day ago

Willfully or blindly ignorant, but the result is the same.

[–] Kalysta@lemm.ee 51 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

And this is why fascism is winning.

[–] BeautifulMind@lemmy.world 26 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Yep. When the 'resistance' grand plans are to adopt the fascist framing (e.g. that 'woke is weak' and should be surrendered) what's the point in having an opposition party?

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[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 51 points 1 day ago (13 children)

Man I figured this was paraphrased because I can't trust a headline nowadays even if it used quotes but nope. Used those exact terms in that way. Says to retake flag energy. Fuck that nationalist shit. Definately need to redefine patriotism around the constitution and civil rights but sure as shit not around the flag. The flag is a symbol of the ideals that should be respected not a thing itself to respect.

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[–] Uranus_Hz@lemm.ee 43 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (3 children)

She’s sorta right. ‘Oligarchy’ is a big college word that Joe Bumblefuck doesn’t understand.

Aristocrats is a good word, but again: “duh?”

Therefore Dems just need to start harping about “rich fucking parasites”

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[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 41 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You. Cannot. Build. A. System. Of. Social. Justice. In. A. System. Of. Political/Economic. Injustice.

There's a reason why we got so much shit done in the 60-70s, socially, and why nobody really feels like we've progressed much since then.

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[–] jimjam5@lemmy.world 41 points 1 day ago

And this is why we need more decent folk around the country like AOC to run for any and all offices.

[–] Microplasticbrain@lemm.ee 39 points 23 hours ago

Primary Democrats

[–] SpikesOtherDog@ani.social 37 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The bully is calling me names. I must be bad.

[–] meyotch@slrpnk.net 24 points 1 day ago

Yes. Internalize the shame! How dare we focus on the root cause of political instability? Let’s just change ourselves so they will stop hitting us. It has worked so well in our past abusive relationships!

The unfalsifiable orthodoxy. Moving to the far-right and appealing to moderate Republicans win elections. If a Democrat wins, it proves that this works, if a Democrat loses, they just hadn't moved far-right enough.

[–] Mossheart@lemmy.ca 35 points 1 day ago

Ratchet effect at work

[–] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 31 points 1 day ago (3 children)

The only reason the party has the woke reputation is that empty lip service is really all they had left. People like this need to get a fucking clue. If people want to vote for republicans, they will never ever ever get confused and accidentally vote for democrats just because you mirrored their policies from 12-20 years ago.

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[–] Allonzee@lemmy.world 31 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

If you think your salvation is in the neoliberals that enabled their opposition into getting us here for 50 years, you're almost as deluded as Trump's legion of useful idiots.

The DNC would rather lose to the Fascists than move to the left. The former keeps their shared bribe gravy train running which is the point, fighting their bribers would not.

The DNC either needs to be stolen by a populist leftist as Trump did with the RNC, or get comfortable because if the choice is fascist or neoliberal as it has been for half a century, we will continue to find new depths to descend to until total system collapse.

Fascism is the union of business and state to accelerate metastasis at any cost, let's say we even have another free election, and best case scenario we elect another neoliberal, I can't respect your opinion or consider it informed if you truly believe the Neoliberals will once back in power do a thing to meaningfully reign in the capitalist's governmental capture or redistribute their Ill gotten wealth.

If the Neoliberals somehow get back into power in 4 years, they'll leave the table set for the fascists to march again in another 4. Affirmation ribbons are leaps and bounds better than scapegoats, but you can't eat affirmation ribbons, nor can you live in them. Our mass homeless population, our murder for profit confidence scheme we call American Healthcare, our education system at every level in utter ruin, these are not partisan issues because they would cost big corpo exploited profits to fix, and so both parties protect the status quo from us, the people that suffer and die under them. Fascists point and laugh at you, but neoliberals just shrug and go "market forces, amirite 🤷?"

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Oligarchy is why we have Trump. There probably isn't hope, but if you refuse understand big corpo is the enemy of the people and the cause of all this stemming from the Reagan Revolution, then not only will you burn in the fires of fascism, you'll burn ignorant as to why and how to boot.

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[–] fishos@lemmy.world 30 points 1 day ago

It's really nice when the false progressives out themselves so openly.

[–] SpaceShort@feddit.uk 30 points 14 hours ago

The Democratic Party is so full of collaborationists. Just shows how democracy and capitalism are incompatible. The bourgeois class just buy the politicians.

[–] anas@lemmy.world 29 points 1 day ago (7 children)

Outsider opinion: There are two sides who haven’t voted for you, one side who says they’ll vote for you if you change, and another side who says they’ll never vote anything but red. There seems to be an obvious vote to go after.

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[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 29 points 1 day ago

I am sure this slide to the right will surely work.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Slotkin says she wants to take the focus off of Oligarchy and Putin's smile just gets a few inches wider.

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[–] eestileib@lemmy.blahaj.zone 25 points 1 day ago

At least she's honest about throwing in with fascism.

The rest of the Democratic party is pissing on our leg and telling us it's raining.

[–] UnculturedSwine@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 17 hours ago

Dem Senator Says Party Needs to Stop Attacking ‘Oligarchy’ and Focus on Losing

FTFY

[–] Toneswirly@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago

More woke, less selling out your citizens to the wealthy. Thats what I want.

[–] theotherbelow@lemmynsfw.com 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)

She ate the onion, I have never seen the word "Woke" used in a conversation without it being extremist politics or a comedy routine.

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[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 21 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

Elissa Slotkin can fuck off.

Detailing her plan, Slotkin – a former analyst for the Central Intelligence Agency…

Oh, she can really fuck off.

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“I can’t do what she does because we live in a purple state, and I’m a pragmatist,” she concluded.

This is code for not rocking the boat.

[–] missingno@fedia.io 20 points 1 day ago (8 children)

I understand where people are coming from when they say "identity politics" are politics getting in the way of class struggle. I vehemently disagree with it, these are also important issues we need to stand up for even when they are sometimes unpopular, but I understand where it comes from.

But if she also thinks we shouldn't be talking about class either, what the fuck does she want to do?

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[–] HulkSmashBurgers@reddthat.com 20 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (3 children)

First part of article title is a bit misleading I think. She thinks "Kings" is a better term than oligarchy because it's more relatable. She has a plan to fight kings. She does seem to think wokeness is weak though.

Sen. Elissa Slotkin (D-MI) has urged her Democratic colleagues to stop attacking the “oligarchy” on Thursday, arguing that the word did not resonate with most Americans and should be replaced with “kings.”

Detailing her plan, Slotkin – a former analyst for the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) – argued that the Democratic Party needed to lose its “weak and woke” reputation and “fucking retake the flag,” adopting a “goddamn Alpha energy” inspired by Detroit Lions coach Dan Campbell.

“She said Democrats should stop using the term ‘oligarchy,’ a phrase she said doesn’t resonate beyond coastal institutions, and just say that the party opposes ‘kings,'” wrote Wren, who reported that Slotkin was planning to deliver a series of speeches in the coming months about her plan.

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[–] Enkrod@feddit.org 19 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Fighting Oligarchy resonates greatly. But yes, the dems have focused too much on the culture war in favour of participating in the class war against the working class.

That is definitely something they should put waaaay more focus on. Trump is the cry for help of much of the working class, if people would believe you actually fought FOR the working people in your country, the dems would be unstoppable.

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