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Such a weird article from Nintendo Life trying to defend the Switch 2 over the Steam Deck. And it's so cringe.

First let's talk about the contention that the Switch 2 has better value because it's comes with a dock.

Look, I can hook my Steam Deck up to my TV using a USB-C to HDMI adapter and use the Steam Deck itself as a controller. As for a dock itself, sure the official Steam Deck Docking Station costs C$109. However, I can buy a 3rd party docking station off Amazon for C$40. So that's not much of an argument.

The Switch 2 has a bigger screen that runs at 1080P. That great. But the Steam Deck has an OLED panel which the Switch 2 does not.

In terms of performance, the Switch 2 probably has a better GPU. However, it lacks the Steam Deck's CPU power. And it only has 12GB of RAM compared to the Steam Deck's 16GB of RAM. Will games look better on Switch 2? Only if CPU and RAM don't serve as bottlenecks.

The next thing: Switch 2 is supposedly better because a joy-con can act as a mouse. But they're really grasping at straws here because I can use an actual Bluetooth mouse with the Steam Deck—one which is more ergonomic too. Oh, and unlike the Switch 2, I can also use a Bluetooth keyboard too with a Steam Deck.

Apparently, the Steam Deck's touchpad so "too awkward" compared to the Switch 2's mouse. But you don't use a mouse in handheld mode—no one does. Touchpads, on the other hand, do work in handheld mode. And I find them much more suitable for FPS and RTS games than an analog joystick.

Now for the article's final point: the Steam Deck can't play Switch 2 games. This is actually the most legitimate point. However, it cuts both ways too. Switch 2 can't play decades of PC games, all which are accessible on Steam Deck. And I should know because I'm able to run literally thousands of games on my Steam Deck—many which don't even run on Windows anymore without lots of modding.

Can Switch 2 play F.E.A.R. without needing to jailbreak and emulate it? Nope—so in terms of game library, Steam Deck has the win.

But ultimately, this is a silly comparison because the Steam Deck is already three years old at the moment. Of course the Switch 2 will be able to do some things better than Steam Deck. It should—it's the newer piece of hardware.

However, when the Steam Deck 2 comes out—probably next year—how will the Switch 2 compare? I don't know, but it will likely have all the advantages that the Steam Deck still has but with giant generational leap in terms of performance.

Right now, if I wanted to, I could get a Lenovo Legion Go S. And it would be leagues better than a Switch 2. It has a AMD Ryzen Z2 Go APU, 32GB of RAM, and 1 TB of storage—which absolutely wrecks the Switch 2 in terms of raw performance.

But the reason I'm holding off is because I think the Steam Deck 2 will be even better.

This doesn't even touch about many points that makes the Steam Deck just plain better. The games are cheaper. You don't have to pay for online multiplayer. You have access to multiple storefronts like GOG or itch.io. You can use it as a PC in desktop mode. I can go on.

Now do I think the Switch 2 is totally lacking in value? No. If I had a young child, I'd probably get them a Switch 2 simply because it's more kid friendly.

However, I'm a full grown man. As for my kid? She's turning 12-years-old in a few weeks so I think she'll do just fine with a Steam Deck.

https://www.nintendolife.com/features/opinion-steam-deck-fans-are-seriously-underestimating-the-switch-2

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[–] rdri@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

About that RAM argument, Steam includes Chromium that can consume up to 1.5 or even 2 GB for some people depending on circumstances (I checked myself when I had the Deck, it used 1.5 in desktop mode). I assume the OS on Switch is much more optimized. I wish Valve switched to something else, something more native.

[–] Grass@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 days ago (2 children)

you can install whatever browser you want though? on the swith I have never even thought of browsing the internet even if it had a usable browser

[–] rdri@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Chromium as CFE I mean, not the browser. It consumes RAM and even CPU at all times, and Steam doesn't work without it.

Not relying on CFE should been considered even more critical for handheld devices, as switching to more native solutions will save the battery time.

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[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 2 points 3 days ago

I agree, it really seems like the author doesn't know what they're talking about. However:

The Switch 2 has a bigger screen that runs at 1080P. That great.

It's actually not, in my opinion. 800p is high enough density on a 7.4" display. Higher resolution will impact battery life. I would, however, prefer 16:9, as almost no games I play support 16:10. And I don't feel like it needs to be any bigger, I think it's a good size. The argument that bigger = better is absurd.

But the Steam Deck has an OLED panel which the Switch 2 does not.

Pros and cons. The Switch has a 120Hz VRR display. SD unfortunately is only 90Hz/no VRR. I've not seen any VRR OLED displays in this size.

As for a dock itself, sure the official Steam Deck Docking Station costs C$109. However, I can buy a 3rd party docking station off Amazon for C$40. So that's not much of an argument.

Not sure why the SD dock is so expensive but having a first-party devices guarantees everything works the way it should, which its very much not with 3rd party docks.

Will games look better on Switch 2?

They sure seem confident that it will...

[–] Ashzilla@lemm.ee 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

They are both good options ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[–] dubyakay@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)
[–] atrielienz@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I'm just going to point out some things.

-1: The comparison comes from price point and the fact that both systems are handheld play anywhere systems with docking capability for couch play.

-2: There are already arguably better spec's handhelds in this category that would outperform both these systems, but the cost of them is largely a deciding factor and it comes with some tradeoffs that include OS (since these are windows only handhelds with the exception of the Legion Go S, meaning that if you don't want windows you have to go to the added trouble of installing something like Bazzite).

-3: We know that just about every handheld on the market has some tradeoffs. The Legion Go has a beautiful screen and joycon-like detachable controllers. But it's also heavier than the switch, and the steam deck and arguably less comfortable to hold for some. We know the the original ROG Ally had a bunch of problems including the fact that it would destroy its own SF card slot and potentially any SD card installed in it. It's newest iteration is great (lots of fixes, better GPU/CPU, larger SDD, better battery life, better ergonomics, fixed SD card slot etc), however it's also close to $1000. The Legion Go S had a different storage capacities depending on which OS you chose at launch. Even now there's different variants that give different performance at different price points (Z1 extreme vs Z2 Go). The Switch OG lacks emulation for a lot of newer games (Wii and DS games specifically). Those games are coming probably but they are available on other handhelds with just a little bit of extra work.

-4: Ease of play and ease of emulation are things people who aren't buying these devices to tinker want. So the Switch 2 wins there. Just buy the subscription and you can emulate quite a lot of their gaming library with more to come.

-5: Expecting a publication largely catering to the fans of Nintendo to offer up its competition as the better bargain for the money is just... Silly. It doesn't make sense.

The switch 2 doesn't add enough things to the table to make me want to spend $450+ to buy it. It's launch titles are not particularly compelling for me, and when you add their anti-emulation litigation to the pile and DCMA abuse, I just don't feel like it's something I'm currently willing to buy. On top of that there's lots of accessibility improvements I would love to see including joycon styles for 2D platformers that I clude a real D pad, GameCube style Joycons, or even just Joycons that would allow those with partial impairment or disability. There's a lot of unexplored territory for the design and execution of this product that doesn't include better graphics or being able to play cyberpunk 2077 and I think people forget that. Can you get such things on a steam deck? Yeah. Probably. But not natively docked to the system in handheld mode.

[–] Tarquinn2049@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Yep, and a wireless VR headset for your home gaming PC has steamdeck beat. So steamdeck only has value if you don't already have a gaming computer. Or if you need to play on a bus and couldn't handle added latency in the game you plan on playing.

In a VR headset, you have a 4k screen, or more than one, or a triple-wide 5760x1080 screen, or anything else you want, at 120hz. And you don't have to look down at your hands to play it or hold your hands up. Virtual desktop is about 6ms latency for your own desktop(s) in your house, and about double that for your own desktop from someone else's house or business. But tethered to a cell connection, latency can start to get out of hand. Or if you want to stream your computer from half-way around the world. Still useable, but it does limit the types of games you can play at that point.

But, having said that. I'm probably still gonna get a Switch 2. I still like Nintendo first-party games, and I don't plan on stealing them.

And I still have a Steamdeck, I just rarely find a use for it.

Edit: also you can do perfect 3D monitors in a VR headset. Not to mention also VR....

[–] Feyd@programming.dev 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

VR headsets are still niche, and a lot of people find them uncomfortable for long sessions and/or get nauseous using them.

[–] Tarquinn2049@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

You don't get nauseous using them as a steamdeck upgrade. And Quest 2 sold more units than steamdeck(5x as many). That's just one VR headset. Full day comfort is a 100$ mod.

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