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VW will invest up to $5 billion in Rivian as part of new EV joint venture (www.theverge.com)
submitted 8 months ago by boem@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world
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[–] FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Mixed feelings, I like VW but I don't really like Rivian.

[–] proudblond@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I’m in the opposite camp. What are the reasons you don’t like Rivian? (I don’t like VW because we had not one, but two vehicles caught up in Dieselgate. They’re dead to me. Which is a shame because I really liked them.)

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

For what it's worth, all automakers had illegally high emissions (well apart from Tesla I guess). This is something I never see people bring up.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diesel_emissions_scandal

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VW wasn't even close to being the worst for it (surprisingly they were among the least bad). They were just the first to be tested, and their leadership owned up to breaking the law immediately, meaning news media could happily call them out without fear of a libel/slander case.

VW alone took the PR hit for an entire shady industry.

[–] RayJW@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

I mean they also own like half the industry. So, I don't feel particularly bad for them to be honest.

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Well yeah I don't feel bad for any big company when bad stuff happens to them (well, within reason, I obviously don't want massive layoffs and people left unemployed).

My point isn't to be an apologist for VW, my point is that the others are just as bad, and plenty are even worse, yet they got away with it. They shouldn't have.

[–] RayJW@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 months ago

Don't worry, I don't think you are. I just think there's a reason they admitted so easily. Probably just another calculated fallout to save all their other brands from their own mini backlash which would ultimately cause more damage.

But yes, the whole industry is a dumpster fire when it comes to regulations and also lobbying.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

VW doesn't own a single one of the other brands on that list.

[–] RayJW@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 months ago

Yea but many of them were involved. The Audi CEO at the time was on the board making the decision and the first to be convicted.