As an outsider looking in.. aren't they always in full meltdown mode?
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Yeah, but right now it's about SCOTUS. Sometimes it's other stuff.
Including but not limited to restrictions on asbestos.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/russian-asbestos-trump_face/
"SCOTUS didn't SCOTUS like they're supposed to!"
-- maga
SCOTUS doesn't know that the Cab'net and me
Circumvent the Constitution when we want to
They tell them they'll comply, but they really don't
Still they're on their knees, and SCOTUS doesn't know!
SCOTUS doesn't know!
SCOTUS doesn't know!
SCOTUS doesn't know!
SCOTUS doesn't know!
So don't tell SCOTUS!
It's a deliberate strategy.
“We live in a society where foreign alien terrorists have unlimited free legal representation,” Stephen Miller posted.
Yes, that's exactly the point.
I believe I saw someone say on Tumblr that if you enjoy having rights then you should advocate the strongest for criminals enjoying rights as well, because otherwise, the Government can always just take your rights away by labelling you a criminal.
Or, as has been trendy lately, a Salvadoran gang member.
Yes, Thats what I've been saying.
You only have as many rights as an accused criminal does.
and if we can remove due process from someone who is accused of being a criminal, and sent them to a central american torture prison with no judge, jury, hearing, or anything... Then anyone can be sent to a central american torture prison, because all it will take is a baseless accusation to strip you of all your supposedly inalienable rights.
That's just what a Salvadoran gang member would say.
Stephen Miller is a whiny little bitch. Literally watch any interview, and tell me I’m wrong. 😂 What a cruel and stupid little man.
We live in a society where criminals have the right to a free public defender 😱
A public defender who's overworked and probably not even that ~~good~~ effective at his job. You must have a weak case to be concerned about a free lawyer.
Edit: Calling public defenders "not good" is a bit low but they are overworked and under-supported, therefore I rephrased to say they're ineffective.
not even that good at his job
There's no need to shit on public defenders to make your point.
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Considering how many people they arrest and claim to be terrorists that's a good thing.
Break a window on a Tesla? Terrorist!
Speak Spanish, believe it or not, also terrorist.
Tattoo, also terrorist.
Go to University and study anything but STEM or Economics or not be a white christian male? Straight to gitmo.
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MAGA supporter shooting at a school: tHouGhtsS aNd PrAyErS.
Dem boycotted a Tesla: MAGA says, “DOMESTIC TERRORISM!”
I mean, how do you prosecute someone who has no legal representation?
that requires due process, and who needs that when you got ICE picking people up off the streets at random, slapping temporary tattoos on them, to justify throwing them in planes to be sent to torture prisons.
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The decision has cast the country’s entire legal system as Thanos in the eyes of Trump officials and associated mouthpieces—against whom they have assembled to avenge this perceived national betrayal.
For most people, having the entire legal system as your opponent might give you pause, and an "are we the bad guys?" moment. Not so for Trump cultists.
We are the bad guys and have been for a long long time.
We all agree that the system is corrupt and ineffective. Republicans subvert that truth in order to undermine the law and cut government programs. In other words, while Dems are complaining about overreach of presidential power, Reps take that same energy towards SCOTUS.
I myself am on the far left so this is not an endorsement, but rather an observation on their clever tactics.
“We live in a society where foreign alien terrorists have unlimited free legal representation,” Stephen Miller posted.
Did I stutter, bitch?
The scene is from HBO's "John Adams", is that correct? Man, what a show! It made me put John Adams among top 5 American presidents. And the role is Paul Giamatti's finest! I have also changed my view of him as one of the best actors! Had the show been released few years later in late 00's to early 10's during the peak of TV dramas, Paul Giamatti would be celebrated as one of the greatest along with Brian Cranston!
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"Suspend habeas corpus" is making me pretty upset
Yeah it feels like that's getting glossed over but that's a really fucking big deal.
For those unaware, habeas corpus (from Medieval Latin, lit. 'you should have the body', basically 'bring us this guy') is a legal procedure that exists in basically every legitimate government anywhere, not just American, which effectively states that if you've been wrongly imprisoned then your lawyer can call to have you moved from prison to a courtroom to determine whether your detainment is lawful. Basically saying you can't just be thrown in a dungeon to be forgotten about because someone can force the court to retrieve you and give you a court date. I'm not a legal expert so read it for yourself to get a good understanding.
At any rate, someone recommending suspending habeas corpus is never up to any good, it is always 100% bad without exception, always. Even saying those three words together should be instant political suicide and should be grounds for disbarment. Successfully suspending habeas corpus with your rubber stamp and signature should be subject to execution. Any judge who accepts that it is suspended is unfit for their position.
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Yes I am sure the criminal who already ignores courts amd suffers no tangible consequences for it will obey a ruling he does not like.
The DOJ could technically put an arrest warrant on his subordinates that are not complying with an order.
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The president doesn't decide the law. His job is to follow it.
Maybe somebody should tell him that.
It is now up to the man on the street to show him that.
I’m sure they would be upset at this if they could read.
Being able to remember is so surreal these days. I remember when Republicans attacked my country and tried to kill elected leaders. I remember when the domestic terrorists were taken in like sons and daughters. I remember CPAC declaring "We are all domestic terrorists."
And now they're saying terrorists don't deserve due process.
Get fucked MAGA traitors.
They can all drop dead for all I care. I’d celebrate.
So when are republicans changing the plaque on the Statue of Liberty to say
“Get out you tired, you poor,
You huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to El Salvador,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!”
because the current one is way to woke and liberal?
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“We live in a society where foreign alien terrorists have unlimited free legal representation,” Stephen Miller posted.
Which society is this, and how can I travel to it?
Stephen Miller's quote is of course quite hyperbolic but in fact yes, the US constitution says even foreign alien terrorists are guaranteed legal representation in the American criminal justice system. It's amazing how many people either don't understand this or pretend not to understand it, because it's one of the tenets that made America so great to begin with, at least on paper
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It was funny watching all the conservative cucks dogpile on the comments section of the MSNBC youtube video that broke the story over the weekend, and every one of them was putting their ignorance of the constitution on full display - more proof that they don't actually understand anything about how government works and should not be taken seriously or given any kind of real power or authority.
Some of these guys are very, very dangerous and will push us towards civil war before they give up power.
Remember that violence is what they want so they have an excuse to crack down and use martial law, etc.
The Courts must uphold the rule of law despite these threats. This is (supposed to be) America. We are not free unless everyone has due process.
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Don't worry, they'll emember they don't have to listen to anyone but the King next week.
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