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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.zip/post/40833329

We are pleased to announce the first release candidate preview release of Jellyfin 10.11.0!

This is a preview release, intended for those interested in testing 10.11.0 before it's final public release. We welcome testers to help find as many bugs as we can before the final release.

As always, please ensure you stop your Jellyfin server and take a full backup before upgrading!

WIP release notes: https://notes.jellyfin.org/v10.11.0_features

This is the first release that uses the new EF Core database mapper. If you'd like to help test this release, please remember to remove all plugins to make debugging logs as easy as possible.

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[–] dgdft@lemmy.world 17 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Is there a buried lede here? What’s noteworthy about an RC of a minor version release?

[–] exu@feditown.com 56 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

This is the database rework that's been in progress for a while to remove all the bad inherited database code from when the forked Emby. No more SQL statements in code or plugins, any DB access now goes through the core library. There are a few blog posts in their website with more details.

[–] timbuck2themoon@sh.itjust.works 45 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I'll be honest, Im not sure why theyre not releasing this as 11.x.

This seems to be a major update. From what I can tell there are API changes, plugins might not work, your entire db is converted to another format, etc.

I'm excited for it and thankful for all the work- just seems so big that it should be tagged 11.0.0

[–] stevestevesteve@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I kinda agree here. https://jellyfin.org/docs/general/contributing/release-procedure/

Claims to follow semantic versioning, explicitly mentioning changes to plugin APIs as reasoning for a new major version.

[–] exu@feditown.com 22 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Their reasoning is literally the second sentence on that page.

Note however that the 10.Y.Z release chain represents the "cleanup" of the codebase, so it should be accepted that 10.Y.Z breaks all compatibility, at some point, with previous Emby-compatible interfaces, and may also break compatibility with previous 10.Y releases if required for later cleanup work

Any 10.Y.Z release is cleanup and can include breaking changes. That's been the case for 10.9 and 10.10 already btw.

[–] evulhotdog@sh.itjust.works 12 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Sure they put a note in, but why not just follow semver to begin with instead of using semver with a bunch of asterisks, and essentially ignoring what semver is?

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

any DB access now goes through the core library

Out of curiosity, this is better because of encapsulation? Protection from bad plugins?

[–] stevestevesteve@lemmy.world 22 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Basically, yes. Forces plugins not to use potentially database-engine-specific SQL so that server admins don't have to select their DB based on plugins for jellyfin being compatible.

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

Brilliant. 👍

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 19 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

I'm serious, there's so much lazy posting on Lemmy regarding software releases.

  • no mention of what the software is or does ✔️
  • no mention of what's interesting about the software or this release. ✔️

Jellyfin is quite a big name, but still, the pattern is clear.

[–] sj_zero@lotide.fbxl.net 12 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I have to admit, it's something I'd like to see done a bit better (not that I'd be the one posting about it typically)

"Crocoslut version 12 released!"

Uh... great?

Though sometimes you go to the website and it's not much better.

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago

Though sometimes you go to the website and it's not much better.

Dude yes. Among my comments you'll see that I ranted about this for a few days in the comments of another post. That's even worse, when you can't even find out for yourself.

[–] felbane@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Crocoslut really started going downhill after the license change and conversion to nodejs in v9.

[–] ddash@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 3 weeks ago

Crocoslut is yesterday. AlligatorAlly is the more friendly fork!

[–] verstra@programming.dev 8 points 3 weeks ago

We could have a tag for things like this (if tags are a thing on lemmy) or a required prefix, such as "Software release: ".

I do like to see an announcement for things I use and have slow release schedule.

[–] Untold1707@lemmy.zip 11 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Sorry, I didn’t realize some Lemmy clients don’t show cross-post descriptions. I’ll copy paste it below:

We are pleased to announce the first release candidate preview release of Jellyfin 10.11.0!

This is a preview release, intended for those interested in testing 10.11.0 before it's final public release. We welcome testers to help find as many bugs as we can before the final release.

As always, please ensure you stop your Jellyfin server and take a full backup before upgrading!

WIP release notes: https://notes.jellyfin.org/v10.11.0_features

This is the first release that uses the new EF Core database mapper. If you'd like to help test this release, please remember to remove all plugins to make debugging logs as easy as possible.

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

My client showed that to me and I read it. I just imagined myself as someone who doesn't know what Jellyfin is, and that text didn't help much.