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How much evidence do people need that our world leaders simply don't care? Environmental scientists have been telling us that it's too late for years. Climate summits are pure theatre.
You're right about our leaders but partially wrong about it being too late. There will be massive destruction and horrible outcomes but damage can still be decreased. With massive effort fewer dead, fewer impovrished, easier to reverse. This is true at each point.
Horrifyingly though our leaders will do nothing while pretending when it gets bad there was nothing they could have done at this point. That it's always been futile.
You may think me saying humanity can still do good work to lower damage is optimism but as a pessimist I understand that nothing will likely be done. Especially when most think it's already too late to do anything.
I agree with you. I don't mean "too late" as in past the point of action potentially having a positive impact, I mean "too late" in the sense that I am not optimistic that such action will take place in time to significantly mitigate the outcomes mentioned.
I'm also have a bit of a shit day - I'm usually a hair more optimistic on these things.
That's understandable. Sorry if I came off sour btw. I'm quite tired. You seem chill
You didn't come across as sour at all. I think it's understandable if we're all more than a bit tired. Right back at you <3 have a lovely day and hopefully we both can rest and restore.
They don't have to do anything. they've convinced the masses that it's too late and we can't do anything, now all they have to do is keep the theater going so it seems like they're still trying.
Why are you lying? Environmental scientists have been telling us exactly the opposite of that: that it's incredibly important to not think it's "too late" and give up because, no matter how bad it's already gotten due to our previous failure to act, it will still get continuously worse as long as we continue to fail.
There is no bottom; only continual escalation of suffering until we finally get our shit together. The sooner we do it, the less we suffer.
I would kindly ask you not to accuse me of lying - perhaps I was too brief in explaining my position and could have better phrased it.
We have very clear thresholds in the IPCC for climate disaster mitigation. We are NOT on track to reduce emissions below those thresholds by 2030, the generally agreed upon date that such reductions are necessary by. By most accounts, we won't hit those targets, particularly when considering who is currently the president of one of the world's biggest contributors and potential leaders in said reductions.
Put differently, climate science has been telling us for years that it will soon be too late, and we - in the opinion of many, including the EU's Copernicus - have already surpassed the crucial 1.5c mark.
The leaders with any power are mostly from well developed 1st world nations where the majority of people will be fine. The climate fuckup will manifest in the form of mass migration from the poor nations that will bear the majority of the disaster to nations that can afford to continue business as normal. Nobody cares and those that do don't have the power to make any meaningful change. The world will burn and nothing will change. It's a train crash in slow motion and their is nothing any of us can do to stop it.