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[โ€“] ABCDE@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Sigh... and how would you like to quantify that when there are so many factors?

Obstructing traffic is not an effective means of protest. Target actual agents and entities associated with the oil industry, not the victims.

They are effective and bring about awareness among other things.

[โ€“] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 1 points 1 hour ago

and how would you like to quantify that

I would like to spend less time talking to environmentalists about useless people harassing victims of the oil industry, and more time actually targeting the oil industry.

For that, you don't need to identify massive, centralized oil infrastructure. You need to look at the oil industry's agents and operations within your own community. There is no shortage of businesses associated with the supplies and maintenance of ICE vehicles. Every one of those businesses needs to feel direct pressure to focus on EVs, other transportation alternatives, or go out of business.

Gas/petrol stations and car dealerships, for example. Set a standard for them to follow; target them for an appropriate degree of hostility when they don't.

  • For gas stations, they can install at least as many EV charging stations as they have fuel pumps.

  • For dealerships, they must offer more EVs than ICE vehicles, and the sticker price of those EVs must be equal to or lower than comparable ICE vehicles.

Businesses that meet these standards are supporting the "transportation" industry. Businesses that fail to meet these standards are supporting the "oil" industry.

JSO's website makes it clear that "arrests" are an important part of their demonstrations. There are plenty of arrest-worthy actions they can take at a gas station. They can create plenty of "awareness" at an ICE car dealership.