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Left Party MP Cansin Köktürk was thrown out of a German parliament plenary chamber on Wednesday for wearing a t-shirt with the word "Palestine" printed on it, a move deemed a political statement by the parliamentary leadership.

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Bundestag President Julia Klöckner intervened during the session, reminding MPs that political messages on clothing are not permitted in the chamber.

While the Bundestag does not have a detailed dress code, its rules require MPs and visitors to dress "in keeping with the prestige" of the institution. Enforcement of this standard is left to the discretion of the session chair.

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[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

If she wore a Ukraine shirt (which would be based) or even an Israel shirt (which would not be based), it would have been handled differently. Hell apparently there is a history of members wearing soccer team shirts with no problems.

"The problem isn't the protests, it's what they're protesting." Macklemore

[–] tomi000@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Why would you make that assumption? Its completely baseless and most likely untrue.

[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

My assumption is based on two years of German authorities and institutions cracking down on pro-Palestinian voices. Somehow, each time there is some specific rule or sub-rule that is being invoked, but somehow it always ends up being a silencing of pro-Palestinian protest, activism, speech.

Why I would assume the worst of German institutions when it comes to pro-Palestinian stances? Here is the fuck why:

I have simply lost faith in German institutions on this matter.

To return to you the question: why would I NOT assume that German institutions would find some way to ratfuck with pro-Palestinian voices? On what exactly can I build a set of good faith assumptions on German benevolence on the matter? Because I see fucking nothing.

[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

why would I NOT assume that German institutions would find some way to ratfuck with pro-Palestinian voices?

I disagree with that generality, but I grant you the point, it's a valid assumption to make.

However:

Nothing about what you said supports the assumption that people with Ukraine T-shirts wouldn't get booted. They would be.


Overall this is a not exactly uncommon thing in the Bundestag: Break the rules to get thrown out to put the spotlight on something. In fact, without the "getting thrown out" part it wouldn't make sense to wear clothing with political meaning in the first place, as everyone would be doing it, and everyone would ignore it.

[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If Die Linke had any sense of political theatrics, if they had just a bit of Melenchon in their blood, they would all show up with TShirts of random countries, see what the fuck happens.

[–] Hubi@feddit.org 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

see what the fuck happens

Spoiler: They would get kicked out all the same.

[–] Madagaskar_sky@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I highly doubt that. Is there a prior precedent for this? What if you wore a flag pin?

[–] Hubi@feddit.org 2 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

Flag pins have historically been accepted and I doubt it would've been an issue in this case. The rule is basically just there so you're not openly promoting anything, be it a political message, brand or any other type of statement.

[–] tomi000@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

You said a Ukraine shirt would not have been treated the same. Thats what I was asking about. Nothing you wrote supports that point

When it happens, youre welcome to get upset and you should be. But until then Im glad they are at least enforcing the rules that are in place like they are intended and dont start making up their own arbitrary rules giving no fucks about democracy like in fascist US.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 8 hours ago

I wouldn't say baseless. It sounds like it might be untrue, though, and that this is an old rule.