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[–] LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 19 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)
[–] Wytch@lemmy.zip 47 points 3 days ago (1 children)

This study appears to focus on breast reduction surgeries, which is considered gender-affirming care. It seems to confirm that breast reductions are overwhelmingly performed on cisgendered males regardless of age.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 20 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Probably not a high percentage, but intersex babies are routinely "altered" to conform to one gender or another with no concern to what the child may wish in the future. Sometimes without even input from the parent.

[–] mcv@lemm.ee 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I'm actually fine with them stopping that one. Leave it to the kid to decide.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Agree, but we both know they'll turn a blind eye to this one.

[–] nimble@lemmy.blahaj.zone 24 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I believe the 97/3% is specifically looking at breast reduction surgery. This means 97% were not trans or gender diverse children but they had the surgery. This is something no one would bat an eye at if you were a cis man with man boobs and wanted to look more masculine, but if someone who is trans or gender diverse has the same procedure then it's suddenly a huge deal.

It's a double standard

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 7 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Of gender-affirming surgical procedures identified among adults and minors, 1591 of 2664 (59.7%) and 82 of 85 (96.4%) were chest-related procedures, respectively. Of the 636 breast reductions among cisgender male and TGD adults, 507 (80%) were performed on cisgender males. Of the 151 breast reductions among cisgender male minors and TGD minors, 146 (97%) were performed on cisgender male minors (Figure 2).

It doesn't seem to break it down quite how I'd like, but the 97% and matching 3% are specifically about breast reductions.

The things I don't understand are the 85 and 151. What are the differences between those numbers? They both seem to refer to total procedures on minors.

[–] JustinTheGM@ttrpg.network 2 points 3 days ago

Of gender-affirming surgical procedures identified among adults and minors, 1591 of 2664 (59.7%) and 82 of 85 (96.4%) were chest-related procedures, respectively.

This first part parses to me as "Of gender-affirming surgical procedures identified, 1591 of 2664 adult surgeries (59.7%) and 82 of 85 minor child surgeries (96.4%) were chest-related procedures, respectively." However, the next sentence doesn't seem to line up with that notion...

Of the 636 breast reductions among men, 507 (80%) were performed on cisgender men. Of the 151 breast reductions among boys, 146 (97%) were performed on cisgender boys (Figure 2).

To make this section easier to read, I replaced some words and phrases while hopefully keeping the meaning intact.

I kind of feel like this quote is referencing two different data sets, and is missing a segue. The numbers don't seem to line up with each other any way I poke at them.

[–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

I think the 85 must be a reduced fraction, but that feels weird to do in a scientific paper.