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the US struck a secret agreement with Ishii. In a memo to General Douglas MacArthur (1880 – 1964), commander of Allied forces in Japan, Washington recognized that although war crimes had been committed, the experiments led by Ishii and his colleagues were "almost incalculable and incredibly valuable to the United States."

In exchange for the records of Unit 731's experiments, the US granted Ishii and his assistants immunity. Ishii died, and his collaborators went on to have careers in prestigious universities and private laboratories.

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[–] FunnyUsername@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

now you're just going in outlandish directions. if you don't have the nuance to distinguish between not letting lives go to waste and murder, then have a good day.

[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 0 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Oh, so you actually went straight for "not letting lives go to waste". Nice.

For me using data obtained by murdering people is 100% morally wrong. It means that as long as you can distance yourself from the murdering itself you're free to benefit from it. Which is a disgusting take.

And US not only used this data, they actually made an exchange for it. They didn't just find it somewhere ans said "well, since we already have it...". They made a deal with the murderers. Even more disgusting.

[–] FunnyUsername@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

so everyone who is alive now BECAUSE of all that information doesn't deserve their life because of your ethical standards? we can agree to disagree.

i am a carnivore. i eat flesh. i have zero disillusionment about what life and it's atrocities actually are. enjoy your high horse, I won't be responding to you anymore.

edit: did you know particle board was invented by the nazis? ever buy any build it yourself furniture? better throw it out. ever drink a fanta soda?

[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 1 points 5 days ago

so everyone who is alive now BECAUSE of all that information doesn’t deserve their life because of your ethical standards?

Where did you take this from? There's zero logic here.

What I'm saying is that if I would find a paper describing cure for cancer but I knew the author brutally murdered thousands of people in order to create it I wouldn't use it. I think using it would validate his methods and would be immoral.

Imagine someone would torture and murder your family in order to create covid vaccine. Would you still take it? Would you let the murder go free in exchange for his research?

edit: did you know particle board was invented by the nazis? ever buy any build it yourself furniture? better throw it out. ever drink a fanta soda?

Did they murder people to create it? If not what the fuck are you talking about?