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How come half the time you write in broken English, and the other half with sweeping paragraphs of perfect English? But it always ends with Russian propaganda like the west is forcing Russia to defend itself by invading their peaceful neighbour, Ukraine. (I guess the irony of saying that in this particular thread is lost on you...)
in 2014, the US bragged spending $5B on Ukrainian coup, and installing nazi puppet rulership. That rulership immediately, as Ukrainian nazi did in Georgia, implemented apartheid laws and ethnic cleansing against Russian population that forced secessionist/autonomy movement. Russia spent 8 years pursuing peaceful resolution to nazi evil, that the west boasted as being a delay tactic to arm Ukraine sufficiently to provoke war. The war's objectives are to keep a nazified militarized NATO aspirant Ukraine, to diminish Russia to the last Ukrainian. To this day, no matter how dim the prospects, Ukrainian terrorist missile capability is cheered on and enhanced to prevent peace and territorial/people integrity.
That you describe reality as pro Russia is demonic hatred to perpetuate a losing war to no benefit to anyone but weapons and oil profit grifters. You are directly responsible for the breakdown in unity and democracy even if you are just gullible rather than a liar profiting from evil.
Uuuh, gonna need some kind of proof on this one boss. AFAIK there's been 0 proof of any kind of ethnic cleansing. Source
I don't disagree that the US has been meddling in international affairs for a looooong time.
But I have yet to speak to any Ukrainians who disagree with the basic core facts that the war was started by Russian aggression and a desire for USSR levels of territory, and we've got nearly a dozen families sponsored over here in my community. Canada has historically had the highest level of Ukrainians outside of Ukraine, and its bizzare that you're trying to argue that Russia is the GOOD guy here. There is ample proof of their war crimes.
Bonus points if you can give me any examples of war where the side that is the defender was the bad guy/where aggression in order to violently control the political scene was viewed as a good thing. People routinely condemn the US for the very thing you're claiming Russia is doing.
At least 10000 killed through shelling and other nazi operations. Odessa massacre.
Complete lie. Russia's terms for peace are about the same as to have not started the war. No NATO, demilitarized if they need hateful rulers, but preferably denazified with fair elections. Terms that were always going to end war immediately.
War on Russia was 100% provoked by US puppeted Ukraine. JFK was allowed to set red lines on Cuban missiles. Your theory is that all bar fights are started by the one seen throwing the first punch.
Lol this is ridiculous.
To be clear, if you can't provide me sources from non-russian news, I'm not going to continue to engage.
Nice of you to avoid mentioning one of the key points for disagreement - "Ukraine must ... withdraw all of its troops from the entirety of the territory of four Ukrainian regions claimed and mostly controlled by Russia.".
Ceding territory is the largest current sticking point for any peace agreement, and is in line with what I said above.
Just so that I'm clear, you're arguing that the wholesale invasion and slaughter of Ukrainians is the US's fault, not the Russian invaders?
Beyond that, I'd love to see any proof you have that of US coup/puppeting Ukraine. The only thing I've ever seen in " support" of this is that dumb ass interview with a state senator that's been edited to hell and back to make it sound like it was an official coup.
I'm no history buff, but arguing "they made me" during an invasion is always the argument of the aggressor. US vs Middle east for WMD was the same bullshit. China vs Taiwan is heading in the same direction. China used the same excuse during hong Kong protests. Israel is using the same excuse now for Palestinians.
There were uppity protesters, ok. They were overwhelmed and burned alive for their uppitiness. Nazi regime liked the result and felt no need to investigate or punish. Entire post 2014 Ukraine history is "those who protest nazi scum that hates Russians are subhuman and need to be exterminated." Utter joke of relying on revisionist pro nazi western and Ukrainian warmongering sources for reality.
The liberated regions of Ukraine voted to join Russia. Pro nazi west could reasonably negotiate Ukraine keeping its side of Dniepro river as long as it agrees to demilitarize Ukraine. Land is negotiable. Nazi hatred that stays militarized for purposes of perpetual terrorist attacks on Russia is not. Ceasefire for purposes of just building more fortifications and waiting for new arms shipments/production is not a productive purpose. Yes, Ukraine could have had far better terms if it had not provoked the war.
100%. Losing a war has no relationship to who started it, and the US/Ukaine nazi rulership position is $1 of damage to Russia is worth 1m Ukrainian lives. Russia spent 8 years attempting peaceful resolution. NATO refused all discussions on Russian security concerns, and proudly boasted that ignoring Russia resulted in the sucessful colonization of 2 new slaves.
Very easy to do your own research. Not debatable. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKcmNGvaDUs&pp=ygUPdWtyYWluZSBvbiBmaXJl
Traitorous HK media mogul brainwashing "Love US values" was a clear shit disturber CIA asset intent on destabilization. That our media jumps on the CIA message opportunity to glorify destabilization is the inherent programing we are submitted to.