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If they can elect a felon to the white house, so could we.

Edit: Better image, thanks to @PresidentCamacho@lemm.ee

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[–] Codrus@lemmy.world -1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (66 children)

Disgusting. This is as bad as championing Trump. Rape, murder—what's the difference?

[–] Allonzee@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (65 children)

Who you murder matters.

I have zero problem with all the Nazis the Allies murdered in WW2.

This is a class ~~war~~ occupation. The Class war was lost in the 80s, the people were tricked into surrendering without terms. Luigi, an alleged traitor to his class bless him, tried to foment a resistence/revolution to the class occupation most of us suffer under.

The idea that change must be nonviolent is something that the oligarchs put in our heads to maintain their control, which includes violence using captured government force against us. Most nations were founded using violence, including this one. Further, the oligarchs have captured both major parties, leaving us to bicker on social issues, and without a vote on the shape and priorities of the sociopathic economy both parties are well paid to defend from us, the people that suffer it. Our nonviolent options have been taken away, as we're encouraged to be divided and hate our fellow laborers on every conceivable wedge so we never look up. Divide and profit.

Brian was murdering Americans in swaths. His murder weapon was snake oil, a con: "buy our service as your preparation for inevitable illness! Just give us your money every month, and you'll be prepared when you need life saving care..." "... Oh you're sick now? You'll die without care you expect us to pay for? Whatever gave you the idea we'd pay for your care? Thanks for all the premiums, fuck off and die, poorie sucker."

[–] Starb3an@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] Codrus@lemmy.world -1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

cough India's independence, Jim Crow Laws. cough cough

[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe@slrpnk.net 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Neither of which were achieved through purely peaceful means.

Ghandi had violent freedom fighters supporting the same cause, which are never mentioned in today's history books. And the civil rights movement had Malcom X, the Black Panthers, and riots.

Violent flanks are associated with higher success rates of social movements:

https://academic.oup.com/pnasnexus/article/1/3/pgac110/6633666?login=false

[–] Codrus@lemmy.world -1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

"India’s Freedom Struggle (1857-1947) was shaped by influential leaders who are called Freedom Fighters of India like Mahatma Gandhi, who pioneered nonviolent resistance"

Those riots wouldn't have had any influence whatsoever, along with so much of all the other things done outside of the influence of MLK's nonviolent influence, if it wasn't for him sitting down with the president himself, and pressuring him via calm mindedness logic and reason, not to mention organizing the biggest moment in the entire movement by far.

[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe@slrpnk.net 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

You're so close to getting it.

[–] Codrus@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I hope someday I can say the same for you my friend.

[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe@slrpnk.net 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

You think it's was morally unacceptable for allied soldiers to defend their neighbors. You ain't my friend.

[–] Codrus@lemmy.world -1 points 6 months ago

I did say I didn't agree with it at one point i remember, at that point in the war of course I agree with our response, I was disagreeing more with responding to Hitler and his regime with the opposite that he was advocating from the start, collectively.

[–] Poem_for_your_sprog@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

If only the leader of Poland had sat down at a table and calmly negotiated with Hitler to not invade.

[–] Codrus@lemmy.world -1 points 6 months ago

That's obviously not what I'm saying exactly. If you're interested check out Leo Tolstoy's non-fiction: Confession, What I Believe, The Gospel In Brief, and The Kingdom of God Is Within You

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