I've been part of the online left for a while now, part of slrpnk about 2 months, and if there's one recurring experience that's both exhausting and revealing, it's trying to have good-faith discussions with self-identified Marxist-Leninists, the kind often referred to as "tankies." I use that term here not as a lazy insult nor to dehumanize, but to describe a particular kind of online personality: the ones who dogmatically defend Marx, Lenin, Stalin, and every so-called "existing socialist state" past or present, without room for nuance, critique, or even basic empathy. Not all Marxist-Leninists are like this. But these people, these tankies, show up in every thread, every debate, every conversation about liberation, and somehow it always turns into a predictable mess.
It usually goes like this: I make a statement that critiques authoritarianism or centralized power, and suddenly I'm being accused of parroting CIA talking points, being a liberal in disguise, or not being a "real leftist." One time, I said "Totalitarianism kills" — a simple, arguably uncontroversial point. What followed was a barrage of replies claiming that the term was invented by Nazis, that Hannah Arendt (who apparently popularized it, I looked it up and it turns out she didn't) was an anti-semite, and that even using the word is inherently reactionary. When I clarified that I was speaking broadly about state violence and authoritarian mechanisms, the same people just doubled down, twisting my words, inventing claims I never made, and eventually accusing me of being some kind of crypto-fascist. This wasn’t a one-off, it happens constantly.
If you've spent any time in these spaces, you know what I'm talking about. The conversations never stays on topic. It always loops back to defending state socialism, reciting quotes from Lenin, minimizing atrocities as "bourgeois propaganda" and dragging anarchism as naive or counter-revolutionary. It's like they’re playing from a script.
I’ve spent a lot of time trying to understand why these interactions feel so uniquely frustrating. And over time, I’ve started noticing recurring patterns in the kind of people who show up this way. Again, a disclaimer here: not everyone who defends Marx or Lenin online falls into these patterns. There are thoughtful, sincere, and principled MLs who engage in real, grounded discussions. But then there are these other types:
- The Theory Maximalist
This person treats political theory like scripture. They’ve read the texts (probably a lot of them) and they approach every conversation like a chance to prove their mastery. Everything becomes about citations, dialectics, and abstract arguments. When faced with real-world contradictions, their default move is to bury it under more theory. They mistake being well-read for being politically mature, and often completely miss the human, relational side of radical politics.
- The Identity Leftist
For this person, being a leftist isn’t about organizing or material change. It’s an identity. They call themselves a Marxist-Leninist the way someone else might call themselves a punk or a metalhead. Defending state socialism becomes a cultural performance. They’re less interested in the complexity of history than in being on the “correct side” of whatever aesthetic battle they’re fighting. Anarchists, to them, represent softness or chaos, and that’s a threat to the image they’ve built for themselves.
- The Terminally Online Subculturalist
This one lives in forums, Discords, or other niche Internet circles. Their entire political world is digital. They've likely never been to a union meeting, a mutual aid drive, or a community organizing session. All their knowledge of struggle is mediated through memes and screenshots. They treat ideology like a fandom and conflict like sport. They love the drama, the takedowns, the purity contests. The actual work of liberation? Irrelevant.
- The Alienated Intellectual
This person is often very smart, often very isolated, and clings to ideology as a way of making sense of the world. They’re drawn to strict political systems because it gives them order and meaning in a chaotic life. And while they might not be malicious, they often struggle to engage with disagreement without feeling personally attacked. For them, criticism of Marxism-Leninism can feel like an existential threat, because it destabilizes the fragile structure they’ve built to cope with life.
These types don’t describe everyone, and they’re not meant to be a diagnosis or a dismissal. They're patterns I’ve noticed. Ways that a political identity can become rigid, defensive, and disconnected from real-world struggle.
And here’s the thing that’s always struck me as particularly ironic: Let's face it, a lot of these people would absolutely hate to be part of real socialist organizing. Because the kind of organizing that builds power, the kind that helps people survive, defend themselves, and grow; it's messy, emotionally challenging, and full of conflict. It requires flexibility, listening, and compromise. It doesn’t work if everyone’s just quoting dead guys and calling each other traitors. Anarchist or not, actual socialist practice is grounded in real life, not in endless internet warfare.
That’s why this whole cycle feels so tragic. Because behind all the posturing, the purity tests, and the ideological gatekeeping, there’s a legit reason these people ended up here. Of all the ideologies in the world, they chose communism. Why? Probably because they hurt. Because they saw the ugliness of capitalism and wanted something better. Because, at some point, they were moved by the idea that we could live without exploitation.
And somewhere along the way, that desire got calcified into a set of talking points. It got buried under defensiveness and online clout games. The pain turned inward, and now they lash out at anyone who doesn’t match their script. That’s not an excuse. But it is something to hold with empathy.
I don’t write this to mock anyone. I write it because I want us to do better, recognize our differences and hopefully come to a fair conclusion. And Idk, I still believe we can. Ape together strong 💖

Tankie is a term that NAFO bodysnatcher nazi US empire lovers use to criticize those who oppose US empire's geopolitical extortion. Naziism is simply superior to Russia's self defense needs, or China's humanist abundance strategy. There is no need to support Marxism to be called a tankie. US puppet democracy simply must be considered supreme, and no matter how distant the human rights abuses (that far pale in comparison to even current US evil) of those resisting US evil, you are a tankie for not favouring US naziism and genocide.
tankie is simply a brainwashing insult meant to uphold the illusory "good vs evil historical narrative the audience learned in grade school from pledge of allegiance"
It is common in anarchist circles for feminist/queer supremacists, identity pride, to view anarchism as a platform to launch a new fascist order where their identity values rule supreme. The evil of religion/church is identity pride that replaces "thou shalt not kill" principles. Where Marxism is labour identity supremacism, that too becomes a basis for fascism.
Regardless of Citizen's united, money has always been speech. So, corporatist/oligarchist/capitalist supremacy can spend on divisivness to grant them supremacism. Zionism has always been the Empire's friend, but it was ultimate alliance point for oligarchy in last election.
Freedom dividends/UBI is far more important than democracy. It permits fair/fairer markets, where labour is not priced based on the desperation level of labour, and returns on capital reflects the opportunity for competition. UBI is less about wealth redistribution as it is power redistribution. Less of a master, is far more achievable than a vacuum opportunity for new masters.
No, "Tankie" has a clear definition and is mostly used correctly around here
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tankie
And that is demonstrated by, known hardcore tankies, .ml admins through censorship and bans of those critical of their favored Authoritarian regimes:
https://lemmy.world/post/28480760
https://lemmy.world/post/28481615
https://lemmy.world/post/28482147
https://lemmy.world/post/28480936
https://lemmy.world/post/28482273
https://lemmy.world/post/28481272
https://lemmy.world/post/28481064
https://lemmy.world/post/27674360
https://lemmy.world/post/27674117
https://lemmy.world/post/27673934
https://lemmy.world/post/27673724
https://lemmy.world/post/27577337
https://lemmy.world/post/27378634
https://lemmy.world/post/27346630
https://lemmy.world/post/27341283
https://lemmy.world/post/27288224
https://lemmy.world/post/27156418
https://lemmy.world/post/27054157
https://lemmy.world/post/27008261
To allowing altered headlines and permitting known propaganda outlets:
https://lemmy.world/post/28275465
https://lemmy.world/post/27428838
https://lemmy.world/post/27416097
https://lemmy.world/post/27314050
https://lemmy.world/post/27288953
That spew Russian talking points like Ukraines invasion just being a "negotiating tactic" https://lemmy.world/post/27012640
To general hostility to other instances who haven't "seen the way" yet https://lemmy.world/post/27426510
To their open declaration of support for Russia (direct from dessalines) https://lemmy.world/post/27352415
To even "concentration camps were just reeducation camps and weren't that bad" https://lemmy.world/post/26985447
The literal definition of Tankie is supporting USSR tanks being sent for regime change/suppression of eastern Europe post war. Russia happened to peacefully give liberation to all of these countries, and to all of USSR. That US/NATO has continued its demonic diminishment of Russia after this point, including nazi coups under fake liberal colour revolutions in Georgia and Ukraine, does not make anyone opposed to the stupidity and demonism of empire overreach, a tankie. You supporting demonic nazis for diminishment of others (and Ukrainian population including nazis) is the problem, and baseless accusation of calling humans tankies or Putin contractors, your path to ensuring the stupid support your evil.
Peaceful liberation, you have to be kidding.
I'd love you to talk with my still alive 90 years old Polish grandma who happened to directly experience all the bullshit when Stalin and Hitler were best friends forever and later the 50 years of post war "liberation" of Poland by the Soviets. I can ask her questions on your behalf if you want. Direct experience no propaganda books.
It's crazy how their propaganda extended so much brain rot.
You should no shit do like a mini video interview with her going over all the BS Tankie USSR talking points
That's actually a good idea. Well I think tankies are beyond reparation, they'll confidently think that my grandma is being paid by the CIA or something similar.. But just for having recorded her experience of how it was living under the USSR dictatorship could be worth.
Maybe but it'd be good to counter their arguments to others who are watching/reading when they bring up their "sources" I for one would link back to it constantly lol
This was mainly my reasoning, beyond having something to shove in the tankies face, just having that recorded bit of history from someone who lived it would be invaluable to both the general public and for personal sentimental reasons for yourself
Dude, language is constantly changing, word definitions change and words can have multiple definitions. We all know what the historical definition is, but it does not have bearing on the current modern day definition. "Gay" used to mean happy, and it still technically is but it's now a secondary historical definition in the modern day. Same with Tankie.
LMAO yes yes poor poor Russia I'm sure Putler is actually a really nice good guy just trying to fight against the evils of the world!!!!
Oh but lobbing "shitlib/libtard" or "liberals" as "dehumanizing pejoratives" is ok?