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[–] ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago (9 children)

Judaism predates the history of "whiteness", of course, and Zionists are white people who don't believe in the God of Moses and are as Jewish as American megachurch goers who follow supply side Jesus could be considered his followers... If any of them came back and checked what his so called people are doing in their names, they'd have mental breakdowns, lol.

From Sykes-Picot to Netanyahu (actual last name Mileikowsky), it's been nothing but a European colonialist project, and "a land with no people for people without land" only worked because, as usual, these Europeans didn't see the brown locals (Jews, Muslims, Christians...) as people. You can't deny history in earnest, but if you're paid to do so, fair enough.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Many Zionists are white christians who support Israel's genocide out of a mix of theological and anti-muslim racism...

But many Zionists are also... Israelis. Many of whom are not 'white passing' by many of those same white christians.

You are the one with a wildly innacurate view of the history of the Jewish/Hebrew people, and the current state of things.

The kinds and levels of racism going on right now are so complex that they have basically horseshoe'd around into a new kind of insane nonsense, which apparently is what you subscribe to.

The history and present situation are more complex than your overly simplified view expressed in your above comment.

[–] ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

Zionists cannot be God fearing, because accepting Zionism is like accepting Nazism or Manifest Destiny: those who don't look like me will be dehumanised so I can get their lands and resources (and even possibly their forced labor). They're all problematic atheists, evidently, the same way all American politicians who have funded genocide for decades will call themselves Christian but they could only fool the blind and mentally impaired. And Israelis are of European stock, tf? Do they look Nigerian, Moroccan or Japanese to you? Bolivian or Polynesian maybe? Lol. If this is not a bit, or you're not a paid agent, then I guess your heart's in the right place because you care in earnest about racism but the hardware upstairs is lacking/propaganda has infected you deeply. And it really isn't more complex than "Israel was a French and British colonialist project (they ended up owning a huge chunk of the Middle East after WW1) that has murdered, pillaged and cornered the native population for about a century" and anyone who believes differently hasn't done even the quickest of online searches. What is it? Do you feel like I'm saying it's your fault and that's why you're recoiling? Cause I'm not. Or is it just your propagandised psyche in cognitive pain?

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago

God commands, enacts and endorses genocide many times in the Torah, your theological/political worldview is... contentious at best, dubious at worst.

Zionists, Israeli Zionists, in point of fact, actively use these sections of the Torah to justify the ongoing genocide of Palestinians, regardless of whether or not they are Atheists or devout Jews, regardless of whether or not they believe these Biblical stories are literally, historically true.

The Palestinians are just the modern Canaanites, by their rhetoric, and must be cleansed to secure God's promised land.

This rhetoric is actively being taught in Israeli public schools, right now, and historically.

You have a very misinformed view of the world.

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