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[–] JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nl 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (4 children)

Well the entire multiplatform astroturfing campaign from people who call themselves leftists worked! Democrats stayed home instead of voting.

Now Palestine will be completely flattened with 0 resistance at all, and redoubled support and bombs for Israel! Way to go! You really showed your support for Palestine by helping this happen!

They will probably come back saying "it wasn't our fault, we just pointed out the truth" while they shouted that a vote for Harris was a vote for genocide [so don't vote for harris] from every platform that they used.

[–] Resonosity@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Most of the leftists I know voted for Kamala.

And I love how Democrats' first move after losing is to blame said leftists. We were the only ones calling out the bad moves of Kamala's campaign from the beginning and warning what might happen if she didn't adopt a Walz ticket (or mostly a Walz ticket).

Democrats did this to themselves. It's the reason why they kept supporting a corpse of a candidate with Joe Biden for so long until the first presidential debate, and it's also the reason why Hillary was picked over Bernie in 2016 at the DNC.

Leftists weren't the issue. Democrats' own willingness to ignore what was happening right in front of them was the issue.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Well the entire multiplatform astroturfing campaign from people who call themselves leftists worked! Democrats stayed home instead of voting.

Yup. I spent the last month or so tagging them, and I have not seen a single one today.

[–] Snowpix@lemmy.ca 1 points 10 months ago

Look around. Technocrit is already trying to ragebait, TheOubliette was gloating in another thread, and a bunch of other .ml shitheads are showing up to this thread now. Fucking disgusting, deplorable individuals.

[–] The_Terrible_Humbaba@slrpnk.net 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

So fucking predictable.

Remember when Biden stepped down? Do you remember how unpopular he was and the massive wave of hope and support for Kamala that showed itself? Well, what the fuck did you think was gonna happen when Kamala glued herself to Biden, and tried to appeal to center right voters? They refuse to make compromises with the left, try to appeal to the center-right, and then blame the left for not voting for them; classic center/lib playbook, the same thing happens in Portugal, same thing happened in 2016 USA elections.

I thought that Democrats would win DESPITE the absolute dog shit campaign, given everything about Trump, but it was still an absolute dog shit campaign by people who claimed this was the most important election of people's lives, but then dug their hills in ideologically and refused to compromise with people on their left.

If the situation wasn't so dire, it would be hilarious to see the double think by Dem voters in this thread:

  • "How can Rep voters not hold Trump accountable despite everything he's done!"

  • "It's not the Dems fault that they lost, despite trying to appeal to the center-right instead of the left; it's never their fault! It's the leftists fault for not voting Dem! Kamala did nothing wrong!"

[–] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz -1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Drag doesn't care what your excuse is.

[–] The_Terrible_Humbaba@slrpnk.net 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

My excuse? Firstly, I'm from Europe, I can't vote in American elections; secondly, I'm replying to people making excuses for why Kamala lost, perhaps you should direct your comment at them.

The ones who need to excuse themselves, in order, are: Republicans; their voters; and finally the Dems for not having primaries (twice), not running a winnable campaign, and trying to appeal to the center-right.

[–] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Drag doesn't mean your excuse for not voting. Drag means your excuse for justifying other people's decision not to vote. They elected a fascist and you're defending them. There is no excuse.

[–] The_Terrible_Humbaba@slrpnk.net 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Blame the Democratic Party for not winning their vote in "the most important election of our lifetimes" and instead trying to appeal to the center right.

To sort of reiterate the point in my original comment, let me ask you two questions. You don't have to give me the answers, but at least ponder them internally:

  1. What's your opinion on people who voted for Trump despite everything he's done, and try to blame all their problems on immigrants and leftists?

  2. Why do you refuse to hold the Dems accountable for their campaign and the policies they run on, and keep trying to throw the blame on other people?

[–] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz -1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Blame isn't finite resource. Blame is infinite. Harris deserves all the blame. The voters also deserve all the blame. And people like you who demotivated the voters also deserve all the blame. You are all 100% responsible. And drag still doesn't care about any of the excuses you've continued to give.

[–] The_Terrible_Humbaba@slrpnk.net 1 points 10 months ago

And people like you who demotivated the voters also deserve all the blame.

When you make assumptions, you make an ass of you and me both. Here's the last comment I made on the electoral race, July 25th, after Biden stepped down.

I agree with you, but Kamala will probably still be the most left leaning president the USA ever had by quite a bit (AFAIK), and has a good chance to start shifting the Overton Window; if only by showing the Democratic Party that choosing more left leaning candidates actually gives them better chances of winning.

Since then, I haven't said anything about it. But sure, if it makes you feel better, just keep on throwing blame everywhere except where it lies, like a monkey throwing feces everywhere. I don't have to excuse anything.

[–] hernanca@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Honest question: Why blame the voters? Why not blame Harris for refusing to do the obviously correct, ethical even moral thing regarding Gaza?

The democrats are so impossibly spineless that they wait for polls and focus groups for their talking points instead of standing up for their principles (if they really exist).

Dems spent the entire campaign trying to compromise with and convince right wingers acting in bad faith instead of just working towards progressive policies. They once and again let the GOP set the tone for every conversation.

The Dem's attitude towards the genocide in Gaza is just a piece of evidence that shows their way of thinking: the dog race and politicking is more important that doing the right thing.

So stop blaming the voters and take a deep look into your own values and principles because the nation being obliterated right now in the middle east and the people who stand for them even at great cost to themselves are definitely not to blame.

[–] Threeme2189@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago

Honest question: Why blame the voters? Why not blame Harris for refusing to do the obviously correct, ethical even moral thing regarding Gaza?

Because it's only one issue out of many that need to be addressed (I didn't say fixed because IMHO the IDF are doing pretty good work eradicating Hamas, all things considered).

You guys need to take care of your housing, healthcare, gerrymandering, public transport, student loans, separation of religion and government and a truckload of other things that I don't think Trump has any interest in improving. And you can bet your bottom dollar that Trump won't be any "better" in regards to the situation in Gaza and the rest of the middle east.

So the voters that didn't vote Harris purely because of the Gaza issue are to blame for their short sightedness.