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Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney told Donald Trump on Tuesday that his country will never be for sale, shutting down the U.S. president’s repeated calls to make Canada the 51st state.

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Canada is “not for sale” and “won’t be for sale ever,” the prime minister said.

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[–] pupbiru@aussie.zone 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

and the important thing about the wait times: they may be annoying, but they’re never life or health threatening… triage exists

(i assume; i’ve never used the canadian health system)

[–] BlackSheep@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 day ago

Yes, triage exists. In my case, despite my injury, they monitored me and I was placed in sequence of severity. My heart beat and blood pressure were ok, so I waited. I’m cool with that. If someone is in more distress than me, by all means, take them first.

[–] Englishgrinn@lemmy.ca 2 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I went in for chest pains at the end of last year, I was shocked at how fast I was seen. Once they established I wasn't dying, I had a pretty long wait but overall service was really good and I paid nothing.

Well, not nothing, I've paid taxes my whole life. But I doubt I've paid the 6 figures amount that would've cost me in the US even if you add all my lifetime taxes together and during that time I still drove on roads and stuff.

Socialized medicine isn't just a better option, it's the only moral choice.

[–] pupbiru@aussie.zone 1 points 8 hours ago

you’ve probably paid less for your own healthcare, and helped to pay for others’ at the same time

[–] T156@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Basically. If someone's been on the receiving end of improvised heart surgery, they'll be rushed ahead in priorities. So if you're not having anything serious, the wait may be irritating and long, but if it's urgent, it will be shorter due to the whole actively dying bit.

[–] BlackSheep@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

“improvised” will be rushed ahead in priorities? No, that’s not how it works. No one is dying.

[–] T156@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

I was envisioning "improvised heart surgery" as in a stabbing with a knife, as opposed to any surgical function.

But generally, if a someone is having a medical emergency and is brought into the ER, or is having a medical emergency in the ER, they will be triaged, and put ahead of a lot of people whose care isn't as urgent, for good reason.

[–] pupbiru@aussie.zone -5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

socialised healthcare! where everything’s free and the wait times don’t matter!

[–] BlackSheep@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 day ago

If someone needs immediate health care, it’s there. Everyone is triaged, which means you are evaluated and are put in order of severity. No one loses their house because of health bills. No one loses their life savings because of health bills. No one dies because they can’t afford their medication. In the US health care is big business. In Canada it’s a right.

[–] hdnsmbt@feddit.org 2 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

You think medical staff has magically more resources when the funding is managed differently?

[–] pupbiru@aussie.zone 1 points 19 hours ago

i think that socialised healthcare tends to have better health outcomes and wait times are both not that bad, and at worst a minor inconvenience