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[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 12 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Yep, I really don't understand how the wealthy in America think that trump will ever stand by his promises. They think that he will bow to them when he has the power to do otherwise? He's learning from putin and using his techniques to take down the wealthy.

they didn't trust him. they (wrongly) believed that they were powerful enough on their own to control him because they thought they were smarter than him.

they're all learning what we all learned his first term. it doesn't matter how smart, how powerful, how rich you are. Donald Trump is a hurricane of chaos, hate, ignorance, depravity, and egoism. they aided him in growing terminal velocity and now he's unstoppable by standard methods.

we need to wake up and realize that because he gained control through abnormal methods that it will take abnormal methods to restore balance and control.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 7 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

they didn’t trust him. they (wrongly) believed that they were powerful enough on their own to control him because they thought they were smarter than him.

I agree, but I also think they need to fix the things they helped break. Let them sit in the stew they made and use those super brain cells to get them out of it.

we need to wake up and realize that because he gained control through abnormal methods that it will take abnormal methods to restore balance and control.

Dude, normal people can protest and that's about it. Don't get me wrong, protesting works but who knows if that's enough. But the wealthy control all of our data, the police and our utilities. The wealthy are the only ones that can fix this.

[–] Modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world 9 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I think it is deeper. They didn't trust him per se. But they trusted he would screw things up royaly. They have deep pockets. They can weather the storm. The benefit for them is the regression of money to the people. And people who are less comfortable demanding more from companies. A lot of the wealthy are driven by a desire to do things without impediment. Elon is a classic example. He doesn't want regulations ot uppity employees slowing him down. Other wealthy are similar. So be resetting the regulations and the employee employer balance, they remove obstacles that slow them down from doing what they want to do. Overall, it was getting to hard for them to exploit the people and the planet. And they trusted trump to reset gains in those areas.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 7 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I can't imagine Amazon thinking that a huge chunk of their business would be taken out by 145% tariffs. Yes, they can weather the storm, but he makes his employees pee in bottles. His bottom line is a major focus of his life.

[–] Modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Well sure, he probably didn't expect 145%. But he operated amazon at a loss for many years. And I think he has mainly gotten what he wanted already. So he can feel free to start pushing back now. And we are seeing signs of that.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 3 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

You know they cook the books to operate at a loss, right? It's not really a loss.

I wouldn't say they cook them. That implies illegal methods. And given the scrutiny they were under at the time probably didn't happen. But they sure do use every legal loophole they could find.
That said, they were doing a lot of reinvesting. He could have taken the money instead. So the point is that he has some patience.