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If '25 isn't due to people knowing win10 is going to die, '26 will be when they realize it's dead. Started during <10.whatever Ubuntu but have been running windows because I own a nvidia GPU that I want to use to play games. I'm confident in bazzite to go full time this year but I honesty want steamos on my main PC. I've used it for however many years since first batch steamdecks arrived and I love it. I promise to be a fanboy if steamos can do nvidia egpus and vr headsets with less that 5 minutes of tinkering.
Lulz, normal people don't give a crap about Windows 10 not being updated anymore, they won't even realize it and worst case they'll get a new computer when they get a warning that their hardware is no good anymore.
You need a minimum of tech knowledge to care and there's only two generations with a higher % of people who have that, the X and millennials. Zs and Alphas use mobile devices and hit a wall when they need to use a computer.
To this day, many "normal people" use Win7 (and even XP) despite it being dead for a long time.
Nonetheless IMO MS will somehow keep W10 on life support for quite some time after october of 2025 just for those people to finally switch to W11
Yeah I also expect MS will see W11's poor uptake (iirc, W10 actually increased market share over the last 12 months) and will see it as necessary to extend. Probably more to reduce the risk of bad press from a serious security incident, rather than because they're afraid people will switch to Linux.
On the other hand, Microsoft is unbelievably good at screwing things up. They could totally dump 10.
I mean, they have to support LTSC anyway, so it would be easy, but still, MS be MS.
Steam OS is not, and will not be a desktop OS. Bazzite is the desktop OS you want. No need to wait. The future is now.
I've seen a lot of comments online of people saying they'll leave Windows 10 once SteamOS has general availability. I fear that'll lead them to having a bad experience with Linux because they'll be expecting a desktop OS but instead receive an OS that turns their computer into a console. There's a couple features Bazzite has (like printer drivers) which you might want on something replacing Windows 10 but you probably don't care about if you have a handheld or a steam machine
SteamOS (the deck) does have printer support now.
Valve does seem to be putting affort into making sure the desktop mode is a complete experience.
Doesn't it boot straight into steam big picture? That alone should be a deterrent to most people wanting to run it as a desktop OS.
The steamdeck has a desktop mode, which uses KDE plasma.
It's arch KDE under the hood, as long as a terminal is accessible and you have root privileges you could probably run an airplane on it if you'd like. The relevant point is the default setting, the thing that nobody changes and why google's paying apple 18 billion per year.
I've been hearing this for every version of Windows since XP. If Linux is to become mainstream, relying on Microsoft's fuck-ups may not be enough.
Recall and AI in general is something normies understand and hate, and that's the fuck up windows is making. Even apple did briefs trials and immediately realized what a mistake they made. And if you haven't been involved in it, you have not fucking idea how far proton has progressed Linux gaming in the last few years and that wouldn't have ever happened without valve.
https://xkcd.com/2501/
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Yeah.
A bigger thing to me is that some OEMs seem to be offering Linux for a discount. That’s massive, as it will draw in “non experts” who don’t know the difference (or care), but very much know about sticker prices.
Also, the user experience is also bound to be much better when a manufacturer provides a tested and supported operating system, especially for "non-experts" for whom a terminal is an arcane inscription tablet.
Ha!
Have you seen the bloatware they ship with Windows? It somehow manages to be so much worse than base windows… it’s honestly much better if they don’t touch the OS at all, barring the absolute bare minimum of making sure input works.
I’m being cynical: I know some OEMs do make kernel contributions and such. Still, the “generic” support distros/chip makers provide for free is better, given their track record.
As much as I like SteamOS, it really bothers me that it deletes Waydroid when it updates. Idk why it does that but it's irritating. Does Bazzite have the same issue?
This is a feature, not a bug.
Immutable distributions will revert themselves to stock (spare your home folder) on update. If you install your apps via flatpak this won't happen.
Since waydroid is not available on flathub, I believe you will continue to have this problem unless you leave immutability turned off completely, which defeats the number one safety net you have against yourself.
Bazzite doesn't have this issue. Waydroid actually comes pre-installed as part of Bazzite